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    4ft hydraulic plate roll

    For quite a while now I have been working on my 54" 10ga plate roll
    it has 6" pipe main rollers and 3 1/2" solid bar top roll
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    Computer keeps crashing so more pics and explanation in next post.
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    Started off with 6" seamless Sch 40 pipe that had 1 end already on it just had to trim off 50 lbs of steel then turn the pipes
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    Then machined 16 2 1/4" thick disks to go inside and a center shaft to stiffen the main rollers
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    Then I had to machine both bearing ends on the top roll blind since my lathe is barely long enough to hold the shaft.
    That and once I had it dialed to "0" "0" O didn't want toe move it
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    I just cut the ends off in the band saw for the pipes and the top roll
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    Next I made my bearing housings
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    next I started assembling
    the frame is an old trailer ramp with 12" I beam for the legs
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    Next is the top roll mounts
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    I used a couple pieces of a brolen bandsaw blade to set a clearance for the bearing housings to slid up and down
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    The down force screws are 2" B7 stud grade all thread. I turned 1 nut then split it to serve as the stop collar to raise and apply down force to the top roll The bearing housings are just some scrap cylinder stock I had
    One end is made so I can slip it off when rolling complete cylinders
    the slides are angled so as to cause the force to keep them held tight and not spread
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    Then I had to make a drive adapter for the hydraulic motor to mount the pulley on
    I started out by welding a round plate to a cylinder and tacked a sacrificial piece on the opposite side this way all machining could be done without removing the work piece
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    The machining was done on my little Sheldon 12x36 lathe
    there is a taper to the inside and a taper on the outside 1 fits the pulley the other the motor shaft
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    To make the keyways I milled the outer one then chucked the piece in my Leblond 17x54 I used the tool post and carriage as a shaper to broach the keyway
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    I don't know if the pics showed it very well or not but addition to the top shelves folding out the center shelf unit not only raises and lowers but is on a 4 link parallel set up and is raised by an electric winch puling 2 cables to lift from the ends the shelf moves forward into the window cavity as it raises . When everything is parked for transport the product is held in place by a slip in panel between the wing shelves and the lowered center shelf. I designed it to have 2 more fold out thinner fold out doors attached to the wing shelves which would have held a pair of 48" flat screen TV's but he never bought the TV's so I never added the 2 extra wings. All of the shelves when parked take up less than half of the trailer so the opposite side is used as bulk storage Some of the larger car shows he sets up at he will average 10k in sales per weekend. He is very knowledgeable about application methods and trouble shooting someone's coating problems for rust prevention.
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    Since I'm waiting on my sheet steel to arrive to make the air tanks out of on my plate roll I discovered another use for it
    I'm pulling some circuits in my 53 ft shipping container to run some of the equipment in there
    the Plate roll was just sitting there so I grabbed a length of 3/8" rebar slid it through the holes for the top roll adjusting screws and hung 3 rolls of 10 ga wire on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank S View Post
    Since I'm waiting on my sheet steel to arrive to make the air tanks out of on my plate roll I discovered another use for it
    I'm pulling some circuits in my 53 ft shipping container to run some of the equipment in there
    the Plate roll was just sitting there so I grabbed a length of 3/8" rebar slid it through the holes for the top roll adjusting screws and hung 3 rolls of 10 ga wire on it
    10AWG, that's a tough pull, now I see why you ran 1" conduit.
    I made the mistake of running 3/4" EMT on my garage build 30 years ago, I pulled up to 12 (the max) 12AWG TW insulated wires, that was too much work, and I did it solo. I swore if I ever run conduit again I would only use 1".

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    Quote Originally Posted by metric_taper View Post
    10AWG, that's a tough pull, now I see why you ran 1" conduit.
    I made the mistake of running 3/4" EMT on my garage build 30 years ago, I pulled up to 12 (the max) 12AWG TW insulated wires, that was too much work, and I did it solo. I swore if I ever run conduit again I would only use 1".
    I ran parallel conduits 1"into 6x6x4 J boxes and 3/4 into 4x4x2 boxes the 3/4 has my 120v lines such as for future duplex drops and lighting. another reason for running parallel is because I may 1 day go 3 ph. Since My panel is already a 200 amp 3ph panel I'm just not using the center lug at this time. if I do go with 3 ph which is most likely as most of my machines are 3 ph I'll set a secondary panel then pull all of my single ph stuff over to it move a few wires around and add colored tape to the ones that need it then I can have what ever voltage the electric company will provide which will probably be 240 according to what the line men told me when they dropped a quad 000 service line to the pole. then hung 00 service drop to my meter. while they were setting the pole I relocated my meter and pulled 000 coper from the base into my 200 amp service panel in the house. and 00 to the outside 125 amp disconnect that currently feeds my shop they drove a 20 ft ground rod near the meter for me and connected a #4 bare copper earth wire, as the house had never had one where the meter had previously been located.
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    While working on a new repair project I decided that I was going to need to roll a couple strips of 3/8" thick 4 1/2" wide T1 steel Now the grade of the metal I have has a minimum yield of 100,000 PSI and a Brinell hardness of between 235 & 290 RC 26 in its natural state.
    So a pretty good work out for my plate roll I figured. Actually due to there only being 9 inches total width the roll acted like it was no big deal.
    This was one of the reasons why a built it like I did
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    These 2 strips would be about equal to a single piece 1/8" of hot rolled mild steel 54 inches wide
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    My shop, which should be priority #1 is one of those things that requires net positive excess cash flow. Even though I have the poles up and the trusses made and enough materials to add in bridging cross and diagonal bracing between the trusses and steel to make a top plate for the perimeter of the building. I don't have purlins to attach the sheet metal or a means to secure the trailer load of PIR cold storage grade insulation that I have before the sheet metal can be installed on the roof.
    I also have enough 38ft long sheets of corrugated galvanized sheets to cover a building 1 1/2 times the size of the one I am building.
    What I need to do is to get a couple of these trailers finished so we can either sell them or lease them on for use to get the cash flow required to push me into resuming work on the building.
    I live on Frank's time out here and things get done when they get done or they don't get done at all much to the aggravation of my wife LOL
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