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Almost every day I must pull out my 75 foot long garden hose to water a shrub or tree. In order to avoid having it tangle, I need to neatly coil it back up for storage. A few days ago I stopped to think about my chore. There had to be a better way!
The solution was simple. The hard part was thinking about the problem in the right way.
If you are interested, please see
https://rick.sparber.org/CoilHose.pdf
Your comments are welcome. All of us are smarter than any one of us.
Thanks,
Rick
MeJasonT, likely many others and I concur this even works for landlubbers in the desert.
Seafarers have been 'faking down' mooring lines a long time, probably not less than 2000 years.
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You certainly opened my eyes to a very smart technique. Lots of great videos on YouTube. I particularly like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2333Ff8GJDwQuote:
Originally Posted by Toolmaker51
On extension cords, I use this technique: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTpbh2zJGhA
Thanks!
Rick
Mooring and anchor lines ok. Hated knitted extension cords forever; partially due to cold weather. All those kinks! or Why buy a 100 footer that trips user and is only happy recoiling to 50'? H shaped frames not favored either, repeated bends break down insulation and conductors.
Cords belong on spools,
Dunno about that. I find cables break down in hot weather more than cold. I tend to buy extension cables with a firmer casing and I use the chain sinnet method only when they’re going into a vehicle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toolmaker51
As to ropes, the figure 8 flaking method is the bomb, I learnt it at the knee of my uncle, who learnt it from his father-in-law.
Why not put a few more spigots in and purchase one of those indestructible go flat wind up hoses?
Because they’re a long way from indestructible.
Another snarl free way to coil a line is to lay each loop so that the twist is in the opposite direction of the one in the previous loop (under, over, under, etc.). When you grab the end and pull it out it'll be straight.
That line, wire rope, stranded electrical wire, garden hose, even twine twist to the right, Crusty's description is correct. It takes advantage of the natural twist in line [right-hand laid] of "faking down" lines, laying them clockwise, since most of us are right handed.
Just coiling those materials isn't effective. When they pay out tangles ensue. The figure eight pattern bridges each layer to avoid that.
Your suggested method seems to be what is demonstrated in the first video. Am I missing something here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Crusty
Rick
Crusty's description matches that final demonstration in the video; lines laid in figure 8.
It's semantics about twist, the line-handler is not inducing a twist. It's laid down as it "wants" to be, as if it dribbles from your fingers while you create the 8.
The sailboater has one distinct advantage, braided line vs whats commonly known as 3 strand[ed]. Those age old techniques developed around 3 strand of natural fibers, with lots of internal friction. The synthetics alleviate much of that.
The tubular 'sheath' of garden hose is braided, but the plastic jacket restricts flexibility somewhat. No matter what the label says.
Inducing twist happens at lest two ways. If simple thread [also made by twisting] was laid flat on a table weighted at one end; rolling a spool will gather it up with minimal twist, the weight will probably spin as a result. Winding same thread by hand, fed through your thumb & fingers on to a spool WILL induce twist and kinks. They won't necessarily be visible until trying to feed a sewing machine.
Another way to induce the twist is playing any Chubby Checker recordings, or some Traveling Wilburys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrwIoIGfFIU
The method I stated doesn't produce a figure 8 lay, but rather a coil. Think of it as a stack of half hitches alternating between left and right lay.
But I prefer to flake a line if I have the space.
The coil mentioned should/ would pay out line dependably from a stable platform. Underway perhaps not, only one coil has to fall inside and ruin deployment. Fake and flake are interchanged, but fake appears to be correct term. Flake seems to connect with another technique called 'flemish'. Those are flat coils, wound from inside, great for shorter lengths.
It's all about getting line into use without delay, by storing it at the ready.
Dunno about any proscribed usage of terms but I have sailed in some ocean races and we called it flaking. Ditto for stowing the mains'l on the boom or dowsing a heads'l for stowage.
If it is flakey then fake it. Sorry just had to interject that little bit of side humor
Fake or flake, it's all good long as we avoid snowflakes. . .Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank S