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Not exactly sure what's being manufactured here. I think I'd rather be one of the people working inside a hydraulic press.
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Previously:
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...3110#post98089
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...3456#post99140
I THINK thats actually how this place makes "steel coils" in bulk use. This just so happens to be what looks like 2 foot wide steel..... (I could be wrong tho!)
Wicked long reigns on those tongs
No different than it was in this country 50yrs ago! People have forgotten what it’s like to work for a living. I have a 50yr old photo of my dad walking a 4 inch beam 500ft of the ground no safety lines at all! That’s the way it was back then. Some countries are behind us on safety. That’s a big reason they can make products so much cheaper than we can. I was brought up by a dad that still thought that way. If someone around him [me] tried wearing safety glasses, ear muffs, face shield, etc... he would call you a wimp! Once he and I shingled a steep roof 2-1/2 floors up with no safety equipment. I was 11yo. Sometimes I wonder how he made it to 85 and how I’m still here? It was all about personal responsibility back then. YOU were responsible for every step you made just like the guy in the above video. No one was going to give you a million dollar settlement because you slipped. Back then it was your own damn fault, deal with it
Now that I look at the old photos, it doesn’t look to be 500ft. Maybe 200? Still higher than I would ever want to do it!
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A whole lot of folks DIDN'T make it to 85, is what happened.
Between 1900-1999 the US reduced deaths from unintentional work-related accidents by 90% https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm4822a1.htm
Tools equipment and safety gear have made vast improvements throughout the years. Far too many implemented policies though were done by folks who have never been higher off the floor than lifting their feet up to spin in their swivel desk chair. or have never held anything in their hands more dangerous than their cup of coffee if they even still know what coffee is.
Safety has and always begin with the person doing the work I've done the dare devil thing on occasion up high without having my fall arresting lanyard connected to anything other than my belt there were those times when it was simply the only way to get from point A to point B because of having to go around point C or D. I still have all my fingers and thumbs and both eyes because I do wear my PPE often but not all times. Wearing safety glasses when using a paint brush hammering in a 4 penny nail ?????? not going to happen sorry.
And about the only time you will see gloves on my hands is if I am aboout to pick up something that is almost glowing red.
There's a difference between deciding to work safely (goggles) and expecting someone else to make you whole when you do not (not wearing goggles and losing an eye).
Radioman, when you were young, it WAS 500ft high.
I hate safety glasses,I wear them but i hat them. Iv'e had crap dug out of my eyes many times....every time I was wearing safety glasses or mask......but some how I still manage to put them on and have many sets all over the place. you just never know when big chunk or what ever will get ya... as for the vid...that looks to be hot rolled steel:hattip:
I've never had to go and have anything removed from my eyes
And you are right you never know when that big chunk has your eyeball in its sights
I've had to sue my eye probe magnet several times and even fold a dollar bill to flick out an offensive piece of a grinding spark always had on safety glasses and usually a shield as well when this has happened Most irritating particles I have been able to simply flush out. Do hardly ever wear safety glasses when just working because I can't see to walk around with them. SO I keep a pair hanging near every machine
dam I have a twin!!! ya it aint a lot of fun having crap dug out of your eyes.....but it dont hurt at all and feels oh somuch better when it's gone. mostly it's just in your head that somebody has a grinder in your eye ball grinding away at it.... I have a funny story real quick....I have had cancer and many other things rong with me:rimshot: well all the radaitaition has taken it's toll...along with moron dr's, but now to the story I had to have a mri from my back...they asked if I had any chance of any metal in my eye's....yup 100% chance I have...so..I had to get ex-rays of my eyes too see if any were still in there( if so no mri) so I go get the xrays...they take whats called a waters view xray...in a few diferent positions to be sure....well they come back in and do it over........then come back in to do them over again....I ask whats going on.they say the xrays are not comming out right....:rolleyes: so I ask whats rong with them? and ask to see them and the raidioligest.... the radioligest come in ..looks at me...and ask me if I am blind...yes blind not blond.... I inform her my eyes are better than perfect!!! ( well they were back then) then she looks into my eyes....wtf?? she then shows me the xrays... and showes me the big chunks of metal in my eyes, yes big chunks almost 3/8"!!! in both eyes!!!! I look at them..I look at her.then i ask where the radiologist is.. thats me!!! she exclaims...oh ****. hear it comes.... where the hell did you get your schooling those are the effing fillings in my TEETH!!!! ( waters view= like a reflection view in the water...from below your head aiming up)YOU CANT FIX STUPID!!! just another reason I had cancer caused by RADIATION!!!! AND OF COARSE AGENT ORANGE.( WITCH WAS THE DUMP SITE FOR AGENT ORANGE 4 YEARS BEFORE IT WAS A ELEMENTRY SCHOOL& PLAYGROUND I WENT TO SCHOOL AT AND PLAYED IN AS A KID ON OKINAWA, JAPAN, KADENA AFB.... THOSE ARE THE 2 KNOW CAUSES FOR THE CANCERS HAD... YOU CANT FIX STUPID
Agreed but sometimes numbers don't tell the whole story for the individuals or their loved ones. Interesting read and was struck by the 80'-95' chart showing Motor vehicle related per 100k was the highest by a large margin followed by workplace homicides 90'-95' and how these would relate to unintentional or safety related¿ Also the numbers/percentages really don't talk about the 3+ fold increase in population nor population density since then. But I agree that overall the workplace is more safety "Conscious"...which is what it's all about in my book.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruce.desertrat
Also that first study of Allegheny County is coal country and mining is the most dangerous occupation next to steel work...not sure if it should be included but probably because it was the first study.
As a safety officer during the Re-Cal OSHA Hey Day (mid 80's), I found them to be much more about conscious thinking than writing unenforceable rules based on a desk jockies thoughts of what safety is and "Should Be". During a clean up campaign I put together for the company, people got that about consciousness being the first order to safety...except one department head I caught standing on a roll around swivel chair trying to change his own florescent light...at a boy Luther! The campaign turn out to be a lot of fun and was a big success and he got the Awe S*** award at the big company dinner afterwards. Don't think he'll ever do that again.
:hattip: PJ
I cannot wear boots any more.
Would that church be in Quincy Mass? It looks very familiar.
