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Dolphin's Armor helmet, part of a full plate armor made for the future King Henry II of France (1519-1559).
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Previously:
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...770#post156008
It should read Dauphin. Not Dolphin.
Cool helmut.
Looks like a target.
I'm in accordance wit mwm, dolphin is a marine mammal, Dauphin is a nobility title as translated by Reverso : Title designating the presumptive heir to the crown France, who is generally the eldest son of the king.Quote:
Originally Posted by mwmkravchenko
The successor planned by a head of state, an important figure. He is considered the dolphin of the party leader.
First, thanks for the pic of a magnificent work of art. I am NOT into picking nits, but since "Dauphin" is French for Dolphin, there are actually several different ways to speak of the Future King. I am not expert enough in history or language to say which way might be correct. My suggestion is to enjoy the artistry shown here, and not worry too much about all the little details. ps: Again, in a strictly friendly and helpful way, I will point out that a "helmet" is a protective head covering device, and "helmut" is (I think) the spelling of the word that is a European Man's first name. Whatever, guys, please don't take offense. We are all here because we respect such amazing artistry as this piece. And, we respect each other and only offer Constructive Criticism. That's what friends do for friends. Thanks. Mike
Gee, and here I thought that it was a covid19 tool.
Sorry Mike, it's not a detail, it's like you use the name "Jean" in french for an "jean", one is the title for a person, the other is a cloth, nothing as a criticism, just calling things by their right name, if you make a search with "dolphin" you never can found who is the "Dauphin" with a capital at the first letter in France and other royalties, there are two totally different things.
Nothing to do too like with the spectacular work of steel "damasquinage" in french(for this helmet) which has nothing to do with the word "damas", the two are made for qualifying steel and are steel but are totally different in technique and result. ;-)
I have been subscribed to HMT.net for a while, but this was the first time I posted on the Forum. It is really nice to have somewhere to learn and discuss unusual things. It is like being part of a team of researchers, who enjoy learning, and helping others learn. I really appreciate people taking the time to help me know more about something like this helmet and its history. I think a person would have to spend a LOT of time and effort to find information like this anywhere else. It is just plain neat to be part of it. Thanks again. Mike
Thanks for your commentary Mike, it's not always easy for me to read and write in english, and normally if nobody says that before I don't make a post to correct something like that, but when it's in my specialty, and when I understood what is written, just to explain what is a false use of a word is a minima for others members. ;-)
In the past I wrote in a specialized monthly collectors paper, with internet all is dead now on paper and they are so many problems when you wrote something on the web that I just make that for collectors or museums actually.
The attention to detail and amount of time this had to take to make is very impressive. The craftsman was obviously very highly skilled.
As it seems you appreciate this work on metal, you can see examples from other countries on the Museum of Geneva website : https://www.ville-ge.ch/meg/musinfo_....php?id=022384
They have a lot of damascened works of art, this one is from the same period and it's very interesting to compare the design through the world.
About all parts of the life made of metal were decorated by this technique in oriental cultures.
MEG
What is the general attitude towards the use of English? Auto-correct is often irritating, and I imagine that people feel patronised if their English is corrected. I have certainly made my share of typos! On the other hand, there are contributors who are trying to improve their English, a language which has many peculiarities.
Personally, writing in english when I was going to Bisley GB was really a torture before the possibilities of web dictionaries, actually I'm very happy when people take time to explain me what's wrong, I use paper dictionary together with the Reverso function when it's important to be very precise.
Thanks. I am happy to proof-read posts, if any one would like that: that is my craft and mastership, not tool making.Quote:
Originally Posted by Okapi
Richard Porson, an English scholar, wrote "Life is too short to learn German". I think he missed the boat. Compared to English, German is easy to learn; it's a far more organized language (although sometimes at the expense of the precision of expression English offers).
That said, I have sincere and deep respect for any non-native speaker who attempts to write in English. An impossibly large vocabulary and a mess of irregular spelling and grammar coupled with the moving target of frequent inventions of new words and constructs make it a Sisyphean task to learn.
The only advice I can offer to native as well as non-native writers is:
Proofread what you write - this is by far the most useful way to improve your writing
Keep and use your spell checker but disable its autocorrect function..
The checker will highlight typos that produce non-words (e.g. teh) but cannot detect homophone errors (e.g. there/their/they're misuses). Autocorrectors will never work until they can understand the text the way a literate human does and that isn't going to happen in our lifetime.
Das stimmt!Quote:
Originally Posted by mklotz
And I've amassed a large collection of the common homophone errors I've seen in internet posts. Folks who might want a copy can PM me with their email address and I'll send it along.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philip Davies
I am a severe dyslexic and 10 years ago I would have never posted on a site like this. Technology has made things so much easier. Don’t get me wrong I still like to confuse and give the spell checker and google a run for its money. Some post take me ages to compile and I still get told there are grammar and spelling mistakes but I have got to the point and age where I don’t care anymore. As for people posting where their first language isn’t English is brilliant.
Homophonic errors are not seldom seen in posts, pronunciation faults rarely.
English is a constant PITA in this respect (compared to, say German).
"Ortography" comes to mind, and the "ghoti" pronunciation,so often mistakenly attributed to G.B. Shaw:
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Link: https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=81
I guess reforms for less spelling irregularities has been going on as long, and has been just as successful as the Metrication?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Englis...irregularities
Just couldn't resist.
Cheers
Johan
For me German is a nightmare since the school, because I don't like that at this moment, and after, in my working time or in shooting activities it was only Swiss-German spoken, and even if German is learned at school, Swiss prefer dialect as current language.
Quoting the Musée de l'Armée's description (first row, third from left) of the armor:
Quote:
The Armour of the Dauphin was made for Henry of Orléans, who was King of France under the name Henry II from 1547 to 1559. In fact, it is decorated with dolphins ("dauphins" in French) facing each other (visual 3). This armour is 1.79 m tall and weighs 19.7 kg. The weight tells us that it was intended for military use. The material used is blackened iron which has been damascened (inlaid with silver). Until 1797, this masterpiece was kept in the royal collections in the Garde-Meuble de la Couronne.
The covid tools are increasingly rare but easily recognizable; often seen alone or driving solitaire. The persistence of one very well known retired persons association running public service propaganda is another.Quote:
Originally Posted by old kodger
We occasionally see one around here but often at half-mast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toolmaker51
But not to monkey around, I see an anti-monkey patent was granted around a year or so ago. Also, seems the authorities can't tell the difference between shingles and simians and use the same picture for both.
