EZ-Magnetic Chuck Key Holder. see the pics.
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EZ-Magnetic Chuck Key Holder. see the pics.
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English is a funny language, particular when it comes to the use of multiple adjectives.
When I saw your heading I misinterpreted it as "Magnetic Chuck" Key Holder instead of Magnetic "Chuck Key" Holder. That wouldn't happen in some languages.
My favourite example comes from Sheb Woolly's classic song "The purple people eater". Is he someone who eats purple people, or is he purple and eats people. That is my favourite all time song, they don't write them like that anymore.
I know English is my second language and my first... 2 /.,';[p :O)
Really like it. I will never be looking for the key again. Ummm! just got to find where I have put my spare magnets now.
The Home Engineer
You GUYS MAKE ME LAUGH :rofl::rofl:
and why didn't I think of that?
Ralph
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Thanks Captainleeward! We've added your Chuck Key Holder to our Storage and Organization category,
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Hi Captain
Found the magnets now I need to find the chuck key.:headscratch: (Only joking). Works a treat thank you again for posting such a simple cure to a well-known problem in my shop. Any other tips to help me from putting things down in the workshop and losing them?
The Home Engineer
I am finally learning that everything has a place and if you ALWAYS return the item to its place you can find it easily instead of looking around
scratching your head wondering where in hell did I put that thing, sometimes for hours or the next day.
Ralph
Paint your most frequently displaced tools a nice shade of electric pink. There's very little pink in the average home shop so a quick scan will focus you onto the lost bits.Quote:
Originally Posted by thehomeengineer
I would recommend that you put the pink tools away before inviting your pub-mates to the shop for a visit. On the other hand, being caught fondling your pink micrometer might motivate you to develop the discipline to put your tools away. :-)
Marv,
I like your coloring suggestion. I also recommend spending some time each month in your shop just "visiting" with your tools. I do this by opening each toolbox drawer and cabinet as a way to remember what I own, labeling all the wooden boxes on the shelves both on the side and top for its contents, and consistently putting the tools back in the same location after use. It is very frustrating wasting time looking for a tool you know you have but can't find it. The same is true about not using the right tool for the job because you forgot you already owned the tool.
Regards,
Paul
Absolutely! If you have a too small shop (raise your hand if you think your shop is too big), tools and things get put where there is space, not necessarily where logic dictates they should be placed. This makes finding stuff problematic. Tool visiting is a good and fun practice. Keeping a computer file showing the location of stuff stored in "illogical" locations works too. It's easier to search a file than to search a shop although maintaining a computerized record demands a level of discipline often absent in many home machinists.
Color is useful in many ways. If one has an electronics background, labeling wrenches and stock using the resistor color code makes them stand out as well as providing a concise way of displaying size. Spots of color...
http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/h...old-eyes-27754
can make reading sizes from a drill index easier. Coloring to remind you of easily-missed differences between similar tools...
http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/c...s-bronze-54301
is another application.
-I'm with Marv! My shop is too small.... I mean its manageable because its small and I mostly do semi-miniature machine work as part of my hobby, BUT That said, I have a LOT of small and or micro size tools. Including my Mill & Lathe....
Finding things within the shop as far as tools go, each bench has its own drawer, that holds tools and or small accessories that go to that benches tools, for instance, I have a electrical bench, that contains on top my Soldering station, and then the drawer holds things that go with that soldering station (different tips, extra solder, and wire strippers, etc...)
I'm a model builder so, I have a train bench where my trains are assembled. The same bench right next to the soldering bench or electrical bench, also has a drawer with it, that carries an assortment of exacto handles, LOTS of blade choices, driver quarters, gear/wheel pullers, etc.
Granted what I have failed to mention here is ALL my benches have a wall backing thats got peg board on it as well. so you can find all sorts of tools for each bench hanging too those that are commonly used. As well as the little drawer organizer racks, that have small drawers full of whats used at "that" bench. For instance my electrical bench has one, each drawer of that organizer has diodes, resisitors, light bulbs, LED's, micro electrical plugs, wire etc in it. -Commonly used items that I use on most if not all my train locomotives.
Then you have my machine bench that holds my Unimats, both the lathe & mill and one big cabinet that holds most of the accessories that either of the 2 machines... the bench top right now is a mess as I was in the process of organizing a box of stuff that needed to be emptied, BUT I can as-is still run either machine! That same bench has a drawer too, holds files, extra center drills, lathe bits, etc.....
I too however have to organize even more small tools and such (my Unimat cabinet is slated to be replaced with a larger one. as I got more to put into it and not the space to make it right so. I bought a new cabinet to make that happen that will match the existing one, just bigger!)
Plus, I'm designing yet one more bench thats one that never existed and due to having a different "fridge" in the shop now, I'm going to build a bench that will surround and go over the top of the fridge so I can better utilize the space......
Magnets are wonderfully useful. Next time you need to disassemble something in the house for repairs drop a magnet in your shirt pocket. As you remove small screws, washers, nuts, etc. stick them to the outside of your shirt pocket. They won't get lost and will be satisfyingly at hand when you need to replace them in the item being repaired.
Marv,Quote:
Originally Posted by mklotz
Thats a GREAT idea! I never thought of that but, it work GREAT when you simply need a 3rd hand to hold things....... NOT to think of what shirts I have that have a shirt pocket on them!
AND your right, it have those said screws at your fingertips!
People to whom I've related this hint often ask, "Why not put the screws and washers in your pocket?" While that would undoubtedly work, selecting a single distinct item from a jumble in the pocket would be frustrating. With them stuck to the outside where they're visible, selecting what's needed for the next step is done easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hemi
I used to laugh at older men when I was a kid for having pockets on their T-shirts or polo's. Now that I am older, I realize just how handy those pockets are. I still won't use a pocket protector though. I like your ideas. I like that labeling of the drill bits especially. I will also use this idea on sockets and wrenches. Thanks for the tips.
Most of my shop friends (all of us of early Jurassic age) use the expression, "Handier than a shirt pocket." My wife is aghast that I rate the quality of shirts by their pockets - how many, flaps, flap buttons, and when flap is closed is there a slit to accommodate a pencil clip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Texf1
I keep a pocket protector in my tool box to remind me of the good ol' days but my daughters refuse to be seen with me if I should wear it. At Halloween one of my grandsons wanted to dress up as a mad scientist. I was disappointed when he asked to borrow my pocket protector to complete the look.
A further refinement to the drill bit labeling that I made after the article was written... For the numbered drills use two colors, one to label 10, 20, 30, etc. and another to label 5, 15, 25, 35, etc.. This will speed the process of counting to the desired drill.
I'm well into my eighth decade but I can't say that I've heard of a pocket protector before. Its use is obvious from the name and I am guessing that it is a leather slip-in liner. Maybe it is a US term? Do you have a photo?Quote:
Originally Posted by mklotz
Leather !? Be still my heart. We could only dream of such luxury.Quote:
Originally Posted by tonyfoale
Type "pocket protector" into Google images and you'll get plenty of pictures of the device itself and genuine nerds modeling them.
I do believe they're a Usonian invention, probably originated as give-aways at tool shows.
Back in the 70s if you had a pocket protector, black frame glasses taped with white surgical tape and a white shirt that advertised everything you'd eaten for the last four days you could repel girls from distances as great as 150 yards.
Didn't work for me that was how I wound up with my first wife sans the Poindexter glasses, or maybe it was my white lab coat turtleneck sweaters and loud bell bottom trousers phase I went through before reverting back to cowboy boots, hat & jeansQuote:
Originally Posted by mklotz
Thanks. I must say that I had not seen those previously. However, although I have never owned one I am familiar with a device for holding one or two pens in a pocket. The device clips in place like a pen clip and holds one or two spring things into which you place pens or pencils. I don't know the proper name of it though.Quote:
Originally Posted by mklotz
I did have a pocket sized slide rule with a leather case which I always had in a shirt or jacket pocket. I never went anywhere without it.
PS. Mr. Google found this on eBay
https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/1-X-Double-...d=162737079877
For best usage, commas can sometimes be inserted to make the intent clear.
Purple, people eater = a purple thing that eats people. This is clear with the comma
Purple people eater = a thing that eats purple people. But this is confusing.
and
Magnetic, chuck key holder = a magnetic device that holds chuck keys.
Magnetic chuck key holder = a device that holds chuck keys that are magnetic. Again, this can be confusing.
But most people will interpret the ones without commas properly. I suspect Tony simply read the title quickly. We all do that some of the time.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tonyfoale
For folks unfamiliar with the Byzantine complications of English, a few more words can make things unmistakably clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Alciatore
A purple eater of people
A magnetic holder for the chuck key
are difficult to confuse in almost any Western language.
Romance languages tend to use descriptive phrases rather than the single adjectives of English. It's more verbose but less subject to confusion.
German welds the adjectives to the noun to create super-words, descriptive but a pronunciation nightmare for those poor souls unfortunate enough to not be born German.
Lost me. Commas are wasted on me, I am dyslexic lol
No, I really am dyslexic so I make it up as I go most of the time. It just takes me six to seven times to read something to understand it. Would struggle without computer. They really are a great help and allows me to post with a lot more confidence. So, if you ever read one of my posts and it really doesn’t make sense let me know lol.
The Home Engineer
Sheb Wooley sang without the commas being obvious, but true afficionados know well that the purple people eater considered that eating purple people sure was fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Alciatore
OK, if you want to practice your punctuation, here are two sentences. Your challenge is to punctuate them so they make sense.
James while John had had had had had had had had had had had a better effect on the teacher
That that is is that that is not is not is that it it is
Took about 2 seconds to fit. After doing this project I was shattered.
Thanks for sharing but please come up with some easier fixes next time lol
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Marv and The Home Engineer,
I enjoy the art of punctuation for the English language. Punctuation clarifies the exact meaning to the subject and something I was taught in the 50's and 60's. You may see my HMT editing date stamps on several of my postings and replies whereby I have edited my previous written text. I think my writing skills have deteriorated over time when quickly replying during work using email, IM and the Internet. I especially dislike my mistakes in the use of prepositions. I have forgotten many of my old grammar rules originating from Latin translations and historically have made their way into the English language and are now considered obsolete.
Regards,
Paul Jones
I will stick to putting my chuck key in its now rightful place, on the magnet. If you don’t mind? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by mklotz
The Home Engineer
Thanks to captainleeward & tony. By the way , you may be extremely surprised how Dyslexic folk (like myself) read things: sometimes totally different to what was intended & spelling is easy in the head but writing down is hard work. Cheers & keep on with the great "stuff".Quote:
Originally Posted by tonyfoale
The magnet is a great idea providing your ticker is good and definately if you don't have a pace-maker.
Most of my work gear still has heaps of tiny holes so I started (years ago) taking a strong magnet (before we had rare earth ones here) in a heavy plastic bag that i usually used to recover items from my workshop/shed floor from within the saw-dust. Then I used a tractor parts holder(strong magnet like those on speakers ((car or home)) which too are really usefull-glue them on the side of cabinets/walls etc) to hold my bits & bobs. I don't know why clothing usually lacks a right hand shirt pocket.
Cheers, Ranald
Some bodys hijacked my post I'll find em sooner or later. :rofl:
cyber space! My response was for a magnet in shirt pocket for screws, small bolts etc. LOL
