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    I'm missing something, I thought these hydrants have a second valve that opens when the main pressure connection is made that lets the water drain down, so they don't freeze solid, and burst in the winter. At least this is the type I believe is used in the frost climes.

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    ah Jon you got me for a second. This one wont work its got a leak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by metric_taper View Post
    I'm missing something, I thought these hydrants have a second valve that opens when the main pressure connection is made that lets the water drain down, so they don't freeze solid, and burst in the winter. At least this is the type I believe is used in the frost climes.
    If you look at the bottom right of the cutaway you can see the drain. The main valve works like a spool valve to close off the drain while the poppet is opened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdurand View Post
    If you look at the bottom right of the cutaway you can see the drain. The main valve works like a spool valve to close off the drain while the poppet is opened.

    Thanks, I know these hydrants have to drain down. I did so some searching on this, and found the answer.
    Where I grew up, there is over 800 feet of clay before bedrock. I recall as a kid watching the city workers fixing a water main break at a hydrant, but I don't remember them putting in any rock ballast for the hydrant to drain down in. I do remember how muddy the crew was, and the hole was more then 10 feet down. But the clay was always damp once you get below the 2 feet of black soil.
    I'm guessing that the fire department has a procedure to use an auxiliary pump to pull the water out of the hydrant, at least in that area of clay subsoil.

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    Whats the pressure of these things 10 bar ? normal water main pressure. Looking at thickness of the casting its not as heavy as i would have expected.


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