Turns out this Foredom is a pretty deep subject in that there are many models and price ranges are all over the place so it makes it hard for the uninitiated to make an informed choice. I saw one on the local CL and had no clue what it was or what it was worth. I would love to have something like this as I find the Dremel very underpowered and a little clunky. But perusing eBay it would seem either there has been an outsourcing to China of the company or there are copies being made there. I also have not seen one with a Jacobs Chuck which would also be very desirable IMHO.