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9mm full auto underwater gun from Spike's Tactical.
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Previously:
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...953#post133785
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...819#post124504
When you really really need to kill someone that's swimming less than 4 ft away from you.
It would be pretty cool to swim just out of range of that thing and catch the bullets.
judging by the water telltale, it's very low velocity.
They have new bullets that are patterned after torpedoes that go a long way in water. Four feet would be easy pickins. These bullets will go through 13 feet of ballistic gel.
But why ???? The US really is a gun crazy nation, just look at the stats. It's very sad, most of world has reigned in firearms but I think it's too late for you guys now.
There is no need to reign in firearms in the way people are trying to do it. Yes the number of killing is sad, it is tragic. However, calling out guns and making guns illegal only serves to make innocent people criminals. It does nothing to "reign in" those individuals who are committing the crimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bony
In many cases, those responsible for the crimes already have long records of criminal violence even murder. They are out of prison because it is considered inhumane to incarcerate criminals.
The recent unrest in the USA, is very troubling. The law enforcement is given the blame for much it that unrest. Many good officers are quitting the force. City mayors are forming civilian review boards to investigate the problem and solutions. In Columbus, Ohio, close to where I live the Mayor and his new police chief have announced a "Innovative New Plan" to reign in the senseless killing. They propose a new program intended to, "to hold those who commit these crimes accountable".
Well DUH, isn't that a creative NEW idea!!!! Time will tell how this new idea works out. In the mean time, I recommend you do not enter my home uninvited!!
Legislatures write scores of new laws every year which do nothing to stem the flow of criminal activity. They are not interested is stopping or even reducing crimes committed by gun violence's if they were the laws on the books all the way back to the formation of the USA would be more than sufeincent. If public hanging was brought back for murder and chain gang labor practices in the prisons for all other crimes there could be a 100 billion guns and trillions tons of ammunition in the hands of anyone who wanted to own a gun without any increase in crime levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bony
The sheriff of our county has a policy if someone enters your house with intent to do do wrong crank up your backhoe and just don't tell him where the bodies are buried. if you don't own a backhoe you can borrow his.
Back the original post. Being a SCUBA diver, I have experienced sounds and shock waves transmitted very well in water. For example a jackhammer working on a concrete ramp at the waters edge is not comfortable if your head is under water anywhere near that activity. I cannot imagine what that guys ears must feel like. With an elastic powered spear gun, there is no expansion force, so no shock wave. But a gun firing underwater, not a good thing to have your ears close to.
I also would not want to fire a gun the barrel full of water!!! So that must be some special gun with specific loads or that intended purpose.
That America MAYBE a gun crazy nation, may well be what saves your skin from the bloody megalomaniacs that want to reduce the population of this planet to 500 000 000 by forcibly stabbing you with this poisonous non-vaccine kill shot. I promise you that if lying John Howard had not coerced (intimidated) the Australian nation to surrender their guns, we would not see the rampant fraudulent lock-downs we are currently experiencing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bony
Frank, I perhaps shouldn't direct my next question to you specifically, but your posts indicate that you have a very good command of how firearms work, so, what would be your estimate of how many marksmen on this planet could perform 12 perfect head shots from the hip, in 90 seconds into moving targets?
This is the accusation leveled at Martin Bryant, who has an IQ of around 60.
Sami Davis JR could have in 20 seconds but he's goneQuote:
Originally Posted by old kodger
If shooting from the hip or firing from belt level, I find that revolvers are better suited for this action due to the grip design Longer barrels have 2 advantages the first is obvious for projectile stability once it leaves the muzzle. the second is the weight of the revolver is further out front of the wrist and greatly reduces muzzle climb.
The standard grip of a revolver does not transmit as much wrist snap like a pistol does. If needing to do head shots with a pistol then it is best to fire from chest to shoulder height because the wrist can be positioned at a more natural angle Foot knee or groin shots would be about there your wrist would be in its natural position when shooting from the hip with a pistol .
As to how many who could make 12 perfect head shots in 90 seconds from the hip I have no idea I can hit a rattle snake at 20 feet with my .22 revolver from the hip but not every time I can hit a tin cup on a fence post from 35 feet with my 1911 .45 but that is a 2 hand stance sighting down the sights.
When I was on the Nurnberg Pistol team in the 70s we had some guys who could cover their 3 round groups with a quarter at 100 feet best I could ever do was once at 75 feet. But now days I prefer my stainless steel .410 Rossi snake charmer with its pistol grip hole in the stock. it doesn't weigh as much as my Model 29+ Ruger 8 3/8" barrel 44 magnum plus the 71/2shot covers my lack of taking time to aim.
Now for your 12 head shots to the head from the hip if I am allowed to use my kel-tec ksg pump I can maybe give you 30 perfect head shots fired from waist level in probably 30 seconds give or take a couple seconds if they are 50 feet or less in distance, I'll even use slugs to make it more dramatic
As many countries who've adopted the communist/fascist stance on private firearms ownership have discovered, criminals don't obey the law it just makes their life safer, (Blair {Bliar} on arrival in Downing Street had the biggest possible display of Police fire power, a key part of his election was based on banning 'handguns', his collusion with PIRA supporters to disarm the population was in intent and effect to make the CIRA/RIRA retribution squads lives safer, whilst he retains full round the clock armed Police protection to this day), Britain became a 'banned it' country, that disarmament started following the Russian revolution, now Britain is 'bandit country'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bony
https://news.met.police.uk/news/man-...ntenced-431480
Yep, that is what makes them criminals. During my 72 years on this planet, I have come to believe that there are basically 3 types of people.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeiljohnUK
1) Those that are good, they will do they right thing, even when no one is watching.
2) Those that are on the fence, they need a bit of encouragement to stay on the good side of the fence.
3) Those that are just plain bad inside and out. Evil with no regard for anyone but themselves.
If, like Frank mentioned, there was such a thing as hanging or any kind of REAL punishment, those in group 2 would move toward group 1. While this in group 3 would move toward group 2 or risk "elimination".
You would think the politicians would be able to comprehend this concept. But then politicians, for the most part, are just self serving nut jobs, too unskilled to do any kind of real work.
A friend of mine whom I have not seen for many years now always said
" The mere ambition to become a politician should automatically preclude you from ever being one".
I am not sure of the exact numbers, but if you removed the top five cities in the US for gun murders, we drop from #5 ? to 175?. guess who controls those five top cities?