How did they made these ...in XVI century?

I'm always mermerized when I see the machines made in the past, and I wonder how did they made them. In particular how did they made the parts that I've highlighted with red circles? Say the parts tagged A or B, did they made them with a hack saw and a file?? ...sooo precise?
And what about the parts tagged C and D?
(The machine in picture 2 and 3 were made by Vaucanson in 1783. I taken these pictures at the Musee des Art et Metiers in Paris, in 2019.)

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Perhaps some more in this post, Claudio?

https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...981#post149046

Give artisans and craftsmen plenty of time and the results can be incredible.

Some of the circled features are non-functional. They're beautifully done but aren't necessarily "precise" if closely measured. Still, to the eye, they appear "precise" and enhance the perceived precision of the machine of which they are part.

Similar high quality work is still being done today. Machinists regularly scrape surface plates/lathe ways/level bases to incredible flatness. Replicators of the Antikythera mechanism hand divide and hand file gears. Hand filing an hexagonal hole in a plate and a hexagonal shape that would fit closely in all three orientations was a common apprentice task back in the day.

On the artistic side, consider sculptors. Michelangelo took chisels to a block of marble and created the David, a stunningly precise representation of the human form. Remington's bronzes are completely lifelike miniatures.

Give a troop of humans some hammers, chisels and files, come back in a few years, and voila, there's a locomotive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Trevithick

Can't resist putting up a reminder of the eminent literary link in this post:

https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...846#post119477

"Tools for the job. A short history of machine tools" by L.T.C. Rolt
1st pub: Charles Churchill & Co, 1965

Chapter index:

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DIYSwede I already knew the video featured in that post. And indeed was something that followed the same path I had in thinking that the lathe was the machine that made everything. Indeed, inspired by the introduction to a book about a project for a DIY lathe out of concrete (sorry I forgot the title). That's also why I started to make my own lathe. But what I ask here is something different. Look at the part enhanced by the red circles. Those are not made with a lathe. Maybe a milling machine, but there was milling machines at the time? Still, some part really intrigue me. I am not a machinist, so I wonder how to make those "hexagoned eggs" (well I really don't know how to call those parts) circled in D and C.

An old Foundryman's "Apprentice Test"

https://foundry101.com/apprentice-test/#more-372

Thanks for the link DIYSwede.

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Originally Posted by Claudio HG

DIYSwede I already knew the video featured in that post. And indeed was something that followed the same path I had in thinking that the lathe was the machine that made everything. Indeed, inspired by the introduction to a book about a project for a DIY lathe out of concrete (sorry I forgot the title). That's also why I started to make my own lathe. But what I ask here is something different. Look at the part enhanced by the red circles. Those are not made with a lathe. Maybe a milling machine, but there was milling machines at the time? Still, some part really intrigue me. I am not a machinist, so I wonder how to make those "hexagoned eggs" (well I really don't know how to call those parts) circled in D and C.

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One way to make duplicate parts with matching symmetry is to use filing buttons.

A Google search will provide much to read on the topic so I'll offer only a short summary here...

The desired pattern is formed in a metal that can be hardened. After hardening, this pattern is clamped to the workpiece. The worker files the workpiece down to the pattern. When he has matched an area of the workpiece to the shape of the pattern, his file will "skate" on the hardened pattern, signalling that he's filed enough at that location. The worker shifts his attention to another area and repeats the process. When done, the hand-filed workpiece is a near perfect copy of the pattern.

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One way to make duplicate parts with matching symmetry is to use filing buttons.

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Yes, that is a clever method. Didn't know those, let's say template, were named filing buttons. Thanks, I learned something new.
That seems to be a solution for small parts though, but some parts that you can see in the pictures are quite big. However I just realized that those parts could have been made from casts, and then filed or grinded down to the desired dimension and finishing appearence.

Anyway, I don't know you guys, but I am really fascinated by those old machines and how people did them. I got lost as in a rabbit hole in every museum I visited: London, München, Paris, Milano. The first two are IMHO the absolute best, but they are so large that one would need days to visit them throughly.

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Give artisans and craftsmen plenty of time and the results can be incredible.

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Give a troop of humans some hammers, chisels and files, come back in a few years, and voila, there's a locomotive.

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39 years I once worked at Stromberg-Carlson in Charlottesville, VA. Their chief plastics molding engineer was an old coot named Hasenauer, and had worked his way literally up from toolroom apprentice. He knew both toolmaking, & plastic injection molding backwards and forwards.

His words about toolmaking: "You gather 3 German toolmakers and a keg of beer around a block of raw steel and you will see MAGIC!!!"

Or....scan and print.Real craftsman a dying breed a pity!

Hi
Would have been a great question to address to the guy who comments the visit.(a Gadzart, the name of the former students of Ecoles des Arts et Metiers, one of the greatest school of engineers in France).
My guess would be the shaper. The spinning tools were not used at these times, the lathes were used, but instead of mills there were shapers, if not manual hammer and chisels.
My guess

Machines then were also not only functional but a work of art as well. I was looking at the feet and uprights in photo 3, all shaped. If I were to design that now they would probably be just square or round bar with function being my primary concern and of course a client that was screaming for their machine to be delivered. When you consider how much easier it is presently with the equipment that we have available to still do the same. On reflection it is a little sad that we (I include myself) do not look at artistic form when manufacturing machines.
I would tend to only do it with something I was manufacturing for my own workshop or if someone handed me a design to build for them. Yet I always do it when I am making wooden furniture.