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    How to make a dividing plate

    I want an accurate division plate with, for example, 14 divisions. Not a problem - just whip out the dividing head and .... But wait! The dividing head doesn't have a 14 hole plate (we'll pretend). What to do? I need a 14 hole plate to make a 14 hole plate. The proverbial chicken-egg problem.

    Well, they didn't have a dividing head when they made the first plate. There must be some way to do it that doesn't require a dividing head. It's either that or I have to admit to myself that the dividing head plate sitting in front of me doesn't really exist.

    The technique described here requires only a lathe and a bit of mathematics. I can't provide an historical reference that proves this was how the first accurate plate was made but, nevertheless, it's a fascinating technique and may serve you in good stead some day.

    Imagine you've turned yourself a top-hat shaped piece of steel. Now imagine you've turned 14 circular disks. When you paste these disks on the brim of the hat, touching (what I'll call) the 'crown' of the hat, they all just fit, simultaneously touching the adjacent disks and the crown. Voila, a '14 hole' dividing plate. All that's required is to make a suitable detent to locate between adjacent disks and you've got a dividing plate. With such a contrivance it would be easy to use it as a locator to drill a more conventional dividing head plate.

    If the diameter of the crown of the hat is known, it's only a bit of elementary trigonometry to compute the required disk diameter for any number of divisions. After turning a piece of stock to that diameter on the lathe it's simple to slice off 14 disks. The attached .jpg file illustrates the arrangement and the math that must be done. While straightforward, a small program makes things easier. After all, the program will never transpose a digit, forget a term, take a cosine instead of a sine or make any of those other idiotic mistakes we're all so prone to make. Moreover, you'll probably want to experiment a bit to get a combination of crown diameter and disk diameter that fits your available stock. That means solving the same equation several times. So much easier with a program than a calculator. The program is available on my page; see sig for URL.

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    Excellent deduction, Marv!
    Tip: Turn a fairly long piece of stock to intended dia, centre drill and ream to desired indexer hole size,
    cut off desired number of cylinders to desired height.
    Glue cylinders to brim, drill index holes as the cylinder bores will keep drill centered as well as perpendicular to plate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIYSwede View Post
    Excellent deduction, Marv!
    Tip: Turn a fairly long piece of stock to intended dia, centre drill and ream to desired indexer hole size,
    cut off desired number of cylinders to desired height.
    Glue cylinders to brim, drill index holes as the cylinder bores will keep drill centered as well as perpendicular to plate.

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    Not fair, Johan; you read my mind. I was just pondering about how to turn this into a more conventional dividing plate with holes for a detent pin and the idea of washers, as per your suggestion, rather than the disks mentioned in the OP occurred to me.

    Regardless, thanks for the suggestion; it's a good one.
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    -Your brilliant idea finally solved my problem of making a biggie 127/ 50 tooth bike chain wheel combo,
    to convert my mini lathe's metric leadscrew to inferial!

    ATB

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    Thanks mklotz! We've added your Dividing Plate to our Measuring and Marking category,
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    get a bunch of small round magnets with a center hole and a length of steel banding material roll the banding into a cylinder use a rubber band to secure it place the magnets around the perimeter until you you have the desired number adjust the banding until the magnets touch all the way around if the banding makes 2 or 3 complete laps it will remain reasonably cylindrical in shape with all of this placed on a steel plate you just need a transfer punch to locate the centers of each magnet
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIYSwede View Post
    -Your brilliant idea finally solved my problem of making a biggie 127/ 50 tooth bike chain wheel combo,
    to convert my mini lathe's metric leadscrew to inferial!

    ATB
    Try a 127/100, and you can get 3D printer files from thingiverse.com for that. You can use a gear for dividing, too.



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