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How to spot a hidden handgun - guide
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I live in an open carry state if, or when I'm carrying which happens to be rare when not on my property, unless I must make a trip to questionable areas of a larger city, you'll know it.
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The tube on the guy's back appears to be the US variant of the Swedish AT4, a single-use and disposable anti-tank weapon. It's been used. He's carrying around a doorstop.
I've put the giant revolver on the list of things that would be a heck of a lot of fun to make.
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ductape
The tube on the guy's back appears to be the US variant of the Swedish AT4, a single-use and disposable anti-tank weapon. It's been used. He's carrying around a doorstop.
I've put the giant revolver on the list of things that would be a heck of a lot of fun to make.
The guy doesn't even l know how to wear those Jackass holsters, Yeah. that tube is just for show, unless he has something broken down inside of it.
That giant revolver is cool though
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In all seriousness though (I have no idea if those previous two pics were of Texans), these clips from the 2019 church shooting in Tarrant County are probably the best example of the benefits of Texas carry laws.
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We'll I hope no one is watching me walk. They would think I have several guns on me. My right foot does not feel good. Sometimes my back is out of wack. I will not list the rest of the issues. At various times, depending on what I have been working on, I walk like all of those mentioned.
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The video of him shooting that revolver is awesome. :thumbsup:
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MAybe he's using it to carry several stacked coffees back to his friends! A tubular backpack of sorts.
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ductape
The tube on the guy's back appears to be the US variant of the Swedish AT4, a single-use and disposable anti-tank weapon. It's been used. He's carrying around a doorstop.
I've put the giant revolver on the list of things that would be a heck of a lot of fun to make.
Not throwing wet towel on anyone's project; building a revolver on that scale would involve some even bigger tooling and fixtures. And that's pattern of 1858 Remington, fired by percussion cap over loose black powder, of round ball or conical bullet in .45 caliber.
Worn out tonight, resisting urge to calculate bore diameter of the model. Certainly more than a big orange.
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Not throwing wet towel on anyone's project; building a revolver on that scale would involve some even bigger tooling and fixtures. And that's pattern of 1858 Remington, fired by percussion cap over loose black powder, of round ball or conical bullet in .45 caliber.
Worn out tonight, resisting urge to calculate bore diameter of the model. Certainly more than a big orange.
I was thinking A close proximity scaled off of a modern reproduction with conversion cylinder might fire the 40mm grenade
modern reproduction with conversion cylinder 45 cal.
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40mm grenade 1.57" cal.
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But actually it turns out to be 28mm 1.1"cal. so I was off by 12mm even Nasa was off by more than that once.
https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com...%281.1%20in%29.
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Toolmaker51
Not throwing wet towel on anyone's project; building a revolver on that scale would involve some even bigger tooling and fixtures. And that's pattern of 1858 Remington, fired by percussion cap over loose black powder, of round ball or conical bullet in .45 caliber.
Worn out tonight, resisting urge to calculate bore diameter of the model. Certainly more than a big orange.
per this and other sources I've read, it's about 1" caliber. https://www.wideopenspaces.com/world...-action-video/ No idea of the charge, and yeah the setup to machine that baby probably includes at least one thing made by the Mesta company :lol:
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Interesting "open carry" scenario. Of about 5 carrying guns only one acted decisively and effectively. Number 3 was so pathetically slow and bumbling with his clothes, the perp shot him first. Number 2 was closer, but stood there not knowing what to do, and was shot second. Number 4 was the only one with a gun that appeared to actually have some training and acted decisively and effectively. I think I saw a few others in another aisle with guns that acted after it was all over. Of the 5 with guns, only one was effective! Clearly some "open carry" folks are "play acting" and have deluded themselves into thinking they are an asset when in fact they are a liability to themselves and others. However, had that 20%er not been there . . .
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The guy who shot him was a firearms instructor, and had previously been a reserve sheriff's deputy, and was previously in the National Guard.
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Most people, when faced with a situation like that, have to wait until they have finished messing their pants, before they can even being to think about actually taking action. Let along have it be accurate, correct, effective action.
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A lot of people think, just because they attended the class, fired off the minimal rounds at the range to qualify them for their concealed carry permit, that they are now suddenly transformed into modern-day Paladins, "Richard Boone", they have gun and will travel. Or they have visions of being any of the other movie or TV show actors.
Nothing can be further from reality, even trained veteran police officers, and active or veteran combat military, won't always be able to immediately stir into action in an active shooter situation. First instinct is to duck and cover, locate, Identify, evaluate, plan and execute, only when a clear shot which does not place innocents at risk. How long it takes an individual to do this depends on how well and how recently they have trained themselves, and the circumstances of the current situation.
I'd like to believe I would be the take down guy, but in reality, I know I would make a better backup guy. At least I would hope I wouldn't be the one to make myself a target of opportunity.
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Saw this one recently, from Australian news. It wouldn't even be newsworthy in the US. The indoor firing range is rare, but the rest of this is not abnormal in America.
Looks like an "arsenal" of less than ten firearms, and - gasp - "more than a thousand rounds of ammunition!", some of which was apparently "unlicensed". And the clincher: it was built "without council approval".
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Holy terror! Over and under shotguns! Bolt action rifles! A work bench for modifications! Sofa on a false floor! No building permit!
No wonder.
Note choice bits to heat up the "News At 11:00".
Down Under used to mean a pleasant destination. Seems now just a thumb.
Buck up lads, they're trying here as well.
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That video from Western Australia was part of the prep for the launching of their next round of banning things, some of the other coverage, not just of that 'bunker', included .308 bolt action 'hunting' (pest control) rifles to be banned. And it's spreading as the UK 'captured' press is now pushing for further gun controls, I suspect on behalf of the WEF who know just like the Nazi's did, an otherwise law abiding population many fight back against enslavement and ethnic cleansing, if they have the means.
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<<<<snip>>>> if they have the means.
Which turns out identical to "yeah, we can legislate that".
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ILLEGAL? PROTECTION?
[QUOTE=Jon;218816]Saw this one recently, from Australian news. It wouldn't even be newsworthy in the US. The indoor firing range is rare, but the rest of this is not abnormal in America.
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The cops are even so "brainwashed" to believe the lies that they tell about firearms and "Excessive ammunition."
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Come visit Australia!
Now even more socialist!!
I no longer want to even visit this country. I used to love how they were freedom loving. now they just disgust me. Wow just imagine the horror of a person that loves freedom and just likes to shoot targets! The government there has turn into cultist zeots, STUPID with power to control people. They tell you what you can do, how to think and what your allowed to believe and say. And if all that isn't true yet...it will be. They people there fell for the age old lie and trap. "The government is here to protect you, trust us." They have turned into Lemmings.
It's just a shame !!!
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in France it's absoluty forbidden shooting at home with all modern calibers as 9 para,223, 45 ACP..all semi auto guns,pistolets ,revolvers.. only BP guns,or hunting guns.. full auto: never..we can't have.
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in France it's absoluty forbidden shooting at home with all modern calibers as 9 para,223, 45 ACP..all semi auto guns,pistolets ,revolvers.. only BP guns,or hunting guns.. full auto: never..we can't have.
What are they referring to as hunting guns? even a lot of shot guns are semi auto
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chez nous,pauvre France= 2 coups en magazin,1 dans le canon... ou alors,c'est soumis à autorisation ,pour le IPSC..
les lois françaises sont débiles!!! tous les pistolets semi-automatiques entièrement automatiques sont des armes de guerre, et toute personne peut en avoir.( dont' have!)
de nombreux amis avaient AK, ou M16, STG 57, etc. modifiés en semi-auto..tous ont été détruits..
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chez nous,pauvre France= 2 coups en magazin,1 dans le canon... ou alors,c'est soumis à autorisation ,pour le IPSC..
les lois françaises sont débiles!!! tous les pistolets semi-automatiques entièrement automatiques sont des armes de guerre, et toute personne peut en avoir.( dont' have!)
de nombreux amis avaient AK, ou M16, STG 57, etc. modifiés en semi-auto..tous ont été détruits..
Thanks, Most laws made by all governments are stupid. In my opinion every government has been corrupted to the core. Drunk on the power they have created for themselves, because there are not enough self-aware people willing to become involved in trying to root out the corruption and reduce the number of power drunk officials in office. Just remember power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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Thanks, Most laws made by all governments are stupid. In my opinion every government has been corrupted to the core. Drunk on the power they have created for themselves, because there are not enough self-aware people willing to become involved in trying to root out the corruption and reduce the number of power drunk officials in office. Just remember power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
The EU lives in fear, a fear inculcated in their Civil Services, and thus politicians by the history of the peoples violence against an overbearing state. The Russian revolution sparked many firearms, thus people, control laws. From their 'small firearms' (concealable weapons) laws (late 1990's) to banning private shooters using any current military round (post WW2).
The UK was badly afflicted too, the fear of 'Tommy Atkins' coming home from the trenches now skilled at arms and being treated just as badly as he was before WW1 and fighting the system in a revolution led to the enactment of similar laws. Banning 'small firearms', with minimum barrel and overall length requirements, along with individual firearms licenced as a single permitted item on an individuals firearms certificate is now the norm, and whilst great play is made about 'illegal firearms' being seized in truth the government doesn't fear simple armed criminals, righteous citizens however...
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<<<<<< snipped>>>>>>> certificate is now the norm, and whilst great play is made about 'illegal firearms' being seized in truth the government doesn't fear simple armed criminals, righteous citizens however...
Any one needs to prove ineffective regulations, find a location (city, county, state, nation) where such observation as above isn't general public opinion.
Is it possible criminals are so prevalent, that figuratively a government could/ would hire them as ready mercenaries against their constituents, knowing their armed forces are primarily right leaning, and wouldn't comply?
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les gouvernements veulent désarmer le peuple...la grosse peur!!!
mais s'il est facile de désarmer les citoyens calmes,ils ne peuvent le faire avec les voyous..
ils n'ont pas encore compris que la Police ne peut pas tout faire,et etre partout.
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Thanks, Most laws made by all governments are stupid. In my opinion every government has been corrupted to the core. Drunk on the power they have created for themselves, because there are not enough self-aware people willing to become involved in trying to root out the corruption and reduce the number of power drunk officials in office. Just remember power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Governments make these laws under the misleading premise of "protection". What it is really about is protecting "Their" power over the people. Governments are afraid of citizens that can protect themselves from corrupt governments.
The US Constitution was written to protect the people from the government, not the government from the people.
And people are only free when they don't have to ask the government for permission to exercise their constitutional rights.
If you have to ask for permission your not free!
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Asking permission is diametrically opposed to rights. No one's forced into exercising rights of any kind, it's freedom of choice.
Even on intermittent basis, rights stand whether anyone partake or not. When that became part of a leftist agenda (as demonstrated by many regimes) good people, by nature didn't buck up and refuse to participate en masse!.
The problem with rights compares with giving a car to kid. If not worked for, it's not CARED FOR.
The he or she, works 4 summers doing odd jobs, to put up a portion of the purchase, has a better perspective of material goods and how they are acquired.
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Toolmaker51
Any one needs to prove ineffective regulations, find a location (city, county, state, nation) where such observation as above isn't general public opinion.
Is it possible criminals are so prevalent, that figuratively a government could/ would hire them as ready mercenaries against their constituents, knowing their armed forces are primarily right leaning, and wouldn't comply?
As the covid experience has proven, the military and more over the Police (Aus and NZ are the best WORST examples) followed orders to such a point that people no longer trust them not to simply 'follow orders'. Many years ago (1980's) I applied for a 'civilian' Police job working in a Police garage, I didn't get the job as I answered the senior officer on the interview panel honestly, "no, I wouldn't follow what I believed was an unlawful order", things have gotten much worse since then.
The EU's ambition for an EU military was one of the reasons I voted for Brexit, as the EU would have complete control over member nations armed forces, and could send them to suppress civilians (and politicians) in other member states, some contend Maggie Thatcher didn't want 'the troubles' in Northern Ireland to end as it was a useful training ground for UK armed forces to train in supressing UK civilians on UK streets...
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“There is Truth in the Old Saying, That if you make yourself a Sheep, the Wolves will eat you.” - Ben Franklin
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“There is Truth in the Old Saying, That if you make yourself a Sheep, the Wolves will eat you.” - Ben Franklin
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I'm content in knowing, whether a quote or mere thought doesn't make it untrue.
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