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Previously:
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...702#post147876
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...664#post123576
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...519#post132193
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...2215#post75959
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...044#post160658
I still have two sets of the same ladder jacks and a 24' plank from my billboard painting days. I used a 40' extension ladder with hooks on each section to seat on top of the boards. If the boards had no catwalk I used the 40' and a 32' extension ladder. I did use a pulley and rope on each end to haul the plank up up and down.
Good ladders, we prefer Little Giant for most things at work, the 'new' ground cue feature is especially useful. For DIY the unprotected from falls 'plank' might be acceptable, but for work here would be totally unacceptable without independent fall arrest.
with houses so close together the ladders had to be placed on the neighbor's property, if a worker falls which homeowner has to pay medico
Those used to be great. But I think that they were outlawed in Canada. To many idiots. I'll check one of the big box stores maybe they are back in. I'm remembering 30 plus years ago. I like the scaffold plank.
Frank here you are supposed to have Workers Constipation. Yeah it fits when you think about it. You are also supposed to have fall arrest training which negates the insurance hence the Workers Constipation moniker.
Mark
I don't like seeing a power tool used to fasten vinyl siding. The typical fastener is an aluminum nail to prevent rust stains that come from plated fasteners that only last a year or two before that plating fails. That battery powered tool strikes the top of the fastener, damaging the very thin electro plating. Assuming he's using roofing nails with that battery powered gun.
Also the vinyl needs to slide under that fastener. Sure he could set the gun to just make it tight enough, but as fast as he's nailing, I bet some of the fasteners have gone through the vinyl pinning it in place. A 12'6" piece of vinyl can change it's length more then 3/8" over temperature extremes. If it does not slide, it puckers and you can tell the installer screwed up.
That's my opinion on this. I personally use wafer headed screws, that have a large diameter head, with a Phillips driver. I use a battery power drill driver (DeWalt) with the torque setting to it's lowest. Screwing into plywood sheathing with 9/16" screws puts them perfectly seated. And if I position a piece wrong, I can remove those fasteners to correct, and not damage the vinyl slots provided for the nailing.
Yes, and if the tag on your fall arrest gear becomes unreadable for whatever reason, it means the arrest lanyard is no longer serviceable. A worker falls, the lanyard functions properly but due to how the scaffold had to be set up major injury is caused by the fall arrest equipment workers constipation won't pickup the bill and the largest organized crime syndicate in the world called OSHA slaps the employer with a huge fine unless he happens to be on their buddy-buddy list then they go after the homeowners ins.Quote:
Originally Posted by mwmkravchenko
All the more reason I have a huge umbrella policy attached to my home insurance
When i first looked at the click-bait picture it looked as though he had sod all on (clothes).
It's not the homeowners fault if a worker falls, it never is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank S
Years ago I ran a crew that worked relatively low heights up to about 20 feet. Some of the time above ten feet we needed harnesses. I was the supervisor so I kept a tight rein on the guys. Including the in date harnesses. Hardly used but they had to be within their best before dates. I had a cheap boss that would not replace them. I looked up responsibility. They come after the Supervisor first, fine me, then the boss. So out comes the short word dictionary and explains it to the man. The turkey took the old harnesses out of the dumpster and sent the guys off to the job with them. Now I'm not happy. I ask the skill testing question. Me or buying three new harnesses? As in me quits. Small companies are all run by Tin Pot Richard Potato Heads Also know as Dick Taters. I didn't last a whole lot longer there. And haven't worked for anyone since. Most of my 35 years working as an adult have been for myself. At least There is no office politics and the boss is in the same union as the worker. Even give myself time off once in a while. But not with pay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank S
Mark
Pretty wide generalization there...so you became the "Dick Tater" and been one for 35 years? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by mwmkravchenko
Hard to argue when you make sense! I have had helpers off and on for years. At one point I had 30 people working in my Cabinet Shop. I found it to much pressure. I had no sales people and it was a lot to be responsible for so many people. So I wound it all down back to one. I have worked hard to train and teach my helpers. Many are no in the construction trades and working well. I treated them well and have stayed friends with all of them. So that's something. Maybe benevolent dictator :) Most of the 6 or 7 small companies I have worked for I am still on speaking terms. Not all. The one I mentioned I have helped him out on large projects off and on for decades. But it is only temporary. Hired gun and out now. Plus I am getting old and cranky.Quote:
Originally Posted by bob_3000
Mark
.I don't mean to rag on this, but it has happened before to a guy I once knew.Quote:
Originally Posted by bob_3000
Explain that in the court when a worker happens to slip in a pet chew or your child's forgotten toy or trips over your garden hose while carrying your new windows. Sure his company's ins. is going to pay the worker's medico but at the same time the company's insurance company will try to recover their losses from the homeowner in any way they can. That is one of the reasons for having an umbrella policy attached to your homeowner's policy.
In the case where the ladders are standing on 1 property while the work is being performed on another what is the guy's automatic sprinkler system turned on and the broken sprinkler head saturated the ground causing the ladder to slip who would be at fault there? So yes, there are possible scenarios where the homeowner could be found liable.
The old canard....it happened to a friend of a friends cousin in laws sister's aunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank S
We arent talking about hazards left lying around in someone's yard or home, we are discussing a guy falling from a platform he brought to a worksite for his own use.
THAT is NEVER the homeowners problem.
Take my word for it (I had twenty two years in the insurance business before I moved on), I know an umbrella extension on a homeowners policy is cheap but it's still a waste of money and a magnet for frivolous claims.
On that note it seems we will have to agree to disagree on the whole subject. While we can agree in a perfect world the homeowner should not be subjected to shoulder any of the responsibilities of a worker taking a fall from a scaffold he or his company brought to the jobsite. And just about everyone knows that not all contractors are as fully insured as they might think they are or claim to be. Not all states even require small contractor companies to carry workmen's comp. if fewer that a certain number of employees or single individual contractors without employees. Not all work done on people's homes is even done by contractor companies in the first place but rather just handymen hired by the homeowners who at such time are the Defacto contractors themselves, who bare full responsibility for the actions and welfare of the worker, which brings up the problem of erecting a structure on, or using a neighboring property for any reason, sometimes as a homeowner their own insurance company will try by any means to avoid paying out injury claims, if there is any posibility of making another ins company or policy holder pay.Quote:
Originally Posted by bob_3000
In my 55+ years in the job life I have owned several small companies, at times multiples at the same time I've set up guys in their own contracting businesses held their businesses under my own umbrella policies paid workmen's ins. for them when they were getting started. I've even a few times gone to work as a wage slave or a consultant myself at times when my own company was between jobs or times were getting leaner than comfortable just so I could have enough income to keep a couple of my own employees on payroll or to meet other obligations.
Just because you have the time to ramble on ad nauseum it doesn't make you right. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Frank S
In this instance you are out of your realm and mistaken.
Call it what you will.Quote:
Originally Posted by bob_3000
But making bold claims like the homeowner is never responsible is not correct
As a homeowner, you can hire a contractor to perform any number of construction jobs at your home. While homeowners are usually focused on making sure the contractor stays on deadline and within budget, there are a variety of legal issues to note as well.
Depending on the circumstances of the injury, homeowners can be held liable for injuries sustained by the contractor on the job. Whether or not the homeowner is liable will depend on the circumstances surrounding the accident, his or her involvement in maintaining the property, and the level of control he or she exercises over the job. It could also depend on the provisions in your homeowner’s insurance policy, as discussed later on.
Premises Liability
Premises liability is a legal concept meaning that the owner of a property is liable for injuries sustained on the property due to dangerous conditions, lack of maintenance, or certain other factors. Premises liability applies in a number of different situations, including slip-and-fall accidents, swimming pool accidents, animal attacks, and construction site accidents. While accidents and falls are a normal part of life, a property owner has a duty to maintain the property and repair hazardous conditions; failure to do so could result in liability for injuries.
There are three types of “property visitors” when it comes to premises liability discussions: invitees, licensees, and trespassers. Contractors working on a private home are typically considered invitees because they have been invited to the property to do business. Homeowners owe the highest degree of care to invitees, and as such, they must promptly address unsafe conditions and make sure the property is safe for the contractor. Essentially, the homeowner must provide a reasonably safe place to work.
https://www.maggianolaw.com/blog/are...er%20the%20job.
https://www.personalinjurylawyer.com...ble-contractor
We are all able to copy and paste insurance quotes off the internet, that information has nothing to do with some guy voluntarily coming onto a property (neighbors or otherwise) and erecting his own equipment and creating an exposure for anyone but himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank S
If you don't invite a vampire into your house they can't cross the threshold either.