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Miami condo collapse - GIF
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I did not realize it was that much of a building that collapsed
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Seems like lots of people dropped the ball on this building.
"According to a Florida International University professor who co-authored a study focused on the issue last year, the complex had been sinking into the earth bit by bit since the 1990s, at one point at a rate of about 2 millimeters per year." (https://www.thedailybeast.com/ill-fa...-something-off)
2020-1990 = 30years. 30years x 2mm = 60mm. I realize that it may not have sunk at an even rate, but even 30mm of settling surely seems like a LOT.
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According to a report I read, this building was built on the grounds of a different condo building that also spontaneously collapsed. Irony or foreshadowing?
Neil
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well my computer says domestic terrorism.... either way it's a bad deal. too bad all the FL miami/dade huricane code **** didnt help....tsom timg wong. I wonder how the camera operator got a head up about it fixing to happen,,,and yet the people that lived there didnt.......HMMM
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It could be my imagination, but if you look at the pool in the fore ground, and and note the image that is framed by the camera. Soon after the building falls, the camera shakes, moving the frame around, perhaps due to the ground shaking from the collapse. The lights shining in the pool also appear to move as the water in the pool responds to the movement.
Tragic for certain. It is unconscionable that people knew about the structural defects and did not make more of an issue about it. If in fact they did, and the information was not acted on, that is even worse.
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It is a problem that the building certifying authorities and government standards have not being followed in the first place.
The government has dropped the ball it is a problem world wide, see this https://www.google.com/search?client...h+rise+defects
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the main issue in this part of fl is the totaly clueless bribe taking inspectors we have hear. I cought the head if the inspection dept and 2 inspectors in a bribe scheem. they told me I no longer needed to get any more permits...for ever.
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I saw a report that in order to get their 40 year recertification that some $15 million would have to be spent to fix an apparent leak between the pool deck and the main structure causing concrete in the structure to deteriorate.
Engineer Frank Morabito said a "main issue" was poor drainage of a pool deck that sat atop a parking garage at the site.
"Failure to replace waterproofing in the near future will cause the extent of the concrete deterioration to expand exponentially," the report said.
According to the Washington Post, Morabito told the condo association that the work would cost $15 million — and that the association did not respond for 18 months.
The first phase of the work, consisting of roof repairs, had already begun when large parts of the building collapsed around 1:30 a.m. Thursday.
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By all means....lets start on the roof, it will cost too much to repair the failing foundation.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
marksbug
well my computer says domestic terrorism.... either way it's a bad deal. too bad all the FL miami/dade huricane code **** didnt help....tsom timg wong. I wonder how the camera operator got a head up about it fixing to happen,,,and yet the people that lived there didnt.......HMMM
It looks to me to.be a video of a screen showing security cameras footage, there are tells at the edge of the view.
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Associations are well noted for slow decision making and poor judgment, especially when faced with having to raise large sums of money to accomplish something even if they are made aware of the consequences of not doing what is needed in a timely manor.
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There will be a lot liability lawsuits probably down to the poor maintenance guy
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Caution: Merely for the other nosy ones here with time and curiosity to spare for this truly sad disaster,
who don't mind getting themselves down into the nitty-gritty of a huge problem complex:
"INTELLIGENT WORK FORUMS FOR ENGINEERING PROFESSIONALS": https://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=484717
[Engineers Unleashed: Caveats: Text-, Drawings- and Jargon-dense forum with thorough and intense discussions ]
"Building Integrity", a YT channel by a Consultant Structural Engineer, Josh Porter of SW Fla, reasoning on possible causes,
consequences and the ongoing forensic investigation (app daily updates):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSQq2FimiXY
