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    New kind of metal vise.

    Hi

    I have been planning "Multipurpose vise" for a while.
    Here it is:



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    Video about making electric hydraulic jack and adds & attachments comes later

    Btw. I tried little different editing style. Indtead of speeding up the video. I made it shoter by showing "present" and the next step at the same time.
    If you watched the video, it would be nice to hear "did it work"?
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    Some big company is going to copy your ideas; guarantee they won't send you a penny. I like the jaw placement/ exchange feature and quick clamping action. Compared to a chinesium copy it will not crack either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toolmaker51 View Post
    Some big company is going to copy your ideas; guarantee they won't send you a penny. I like the jaw placement/ exchange feature and quick clamping action. Compared to a chinesium copy it will not crack either.
    Yeah. That's possible, but i use their ideas too.
    So, i think we get even at the end.

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    That half nut is a winner in my book. A toolmaker vise with quick secure hold is way different than a blacksmith or mechanics vise that gets beat, torqued, flame cut and who knows else.
    Woodworkers get the picture, but the flush jaws don't help us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toolmaker51 View Post
    That half nut is a winner in my book. A toolmaker vise with quick secure hold is way different than a blacksmith or mechanics vise that gets beat, torqued, flame cut and who knows else.
    Woodworkers get the picture, but the flush jaws don't help us.
    Yep. That "ultimate" was just a kind of joke. There is so many different needs for different needs. There is no way to make one vise that could fill needs of the machinist to blacksmith.

    I just designeg this to improve regular bench vise on the home workshop. It can be used when you want to clamp something without leaving marks to it, or with higher force when it doesn't matter if workpiece gets scratched or not.
    Half nut solutions are just too weak when using more power. ( Clamping heavier parts etc )

    This allows to change different "tooling' for to make bends, clamp round / square tubings, ring rollers.. etc. To allow easier / faster upgrade & different uses.


    But, these are just my toughts. All that i can do here, is to share my toughts. Someone else things different way, or different tasks.

    It would have made video too long to show all possibilities.
    That's why part 2 comes later, of course some possibilities are the ones that needs to be imagined by the viewer itself.

    I have seen so many "ultimate" welding tables & workbenches.. none of them have been suitable to my needs. So, i think there's no way to make anykind of "ultimate" anything that would be perfect for every user.

    This is my "ultimate welding table"


    Would be little overkill for most, and too small for some.
    Lifts 38000 kg from 70cm to 240cm.
    Turns around 360 degrees.

    At home i use just whatever flat surface i found.

    Just an example of different needs. Best option is to hit the middle section, i think?
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    Made a longer handle.

    I had no suitable axle when i made the original one.

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    It was made with the same way.

    12mm axle, weld a piece of pipe to the other end. And grind weld smooth.


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    Another end is "turned" with a drill and angle grinder.
    ( Like seen on the video )

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    Rubber plug is nice for the hand

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    E X C E L L E N T ! !
    I like it.
    I gotta build one (but BIGGER!)
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    If you use a modified buttress or breech-lock thread and a half nut on each side it will be stronger than acme thread.
    I used to have a vice on my radial drill with the quick release half turn and you could lift the screw from the half nut slide the jaw to touch what you were clamping then lay the screw in the nut give a half turn and the part was locked in good and tight.
    Modified Buttress threads come in different arrangements mine was concave on the screw so the nut hooked into the screw
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    Vise Frank S refers to is likely a "Cardinal Speed-Vise" With half nut about 3 or 4 diameters long, heat treated, and screwed to base casting.
    I doubt one would strip under load like Tuomas's vise. And if it did, make a couple spares beforehand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank S View Post
    If you use a modified buttress or breech-lock thread and a half nut on each side it will be stronger than acme thread.
    I used to have a vice on my radial drill with the quick release half turn and you could lift the screw from the half nut slide the jaw to touch what you were clamping then lay the screw in the nut give a half turn and the part was locked in good and tight.
    Modified Buttress threads come in different arrangements mine was concave on the screw so the nut hooked into the screw
    I don't personally care what thread is strongest.
    The mechanism that connects those two halfs is the weakest part.

    Specially if you want to make one at home and you don't have a lathe or mill.
    I wanted to make a vise which can be used as a vise, quick action vise and hydraulic vise.

    This was how i see its can be made with quite simple tools.
    Here you can buy acme threaded rod and nuts from the store.

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