R.P.M Lathe meter mod. New blue meter mod.
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I like tachometers in lathes, even more on a varispeed mill. My lathe is geared, RPM is assured with voltage. Does the tach monitor spindle or motor, and indicate when cuts bog down?
I purchased a Thai made bicycle speedometer for my band saw several years ago and mounted that on the top wheel. Using a formula I found somewhere like this forum I set it to read blade speed in metres per second tho it could also be set to read rpm or fpm. I may still have the setup instructions and formula if you need them.
I should have been smart and kept it when I replaced that bandsaw.
I think you could probably find a suitable location for the small magnet that provided the pulse AND the peanut sized sensor so that it would read chuck rpm
So much TO LEARN! Apparently, I need to add electronics to curriculum. That a speedometer could interpret as FPM is like made to order. I'd recommend posting the setup and formula an individual thread. Sure to be appreciated by many.
Yes they do indicate when the spindle bogs down. shows lower rpm.
I drilled a hole in the pulley and put a magnet with a hole in the middle (ebay) and screwed it on work real good.
however the magnent had to be flipped over for it to work.
Here is one that I got, UK eBay but I am sure that the US eBay has them too. I was going to make my own but at that price that would have been folly beyond imagination. ebay tachoQuote:
Originally Posted by Toolmaker51
Here is a pic from the listing Attachment 28052
You need no knowledge of electronics, it will measure the rpm of whatever device you put the pickup on.
I'm assuming "FPM" is a typo and you meant RPM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toolmaker51
Firm proof that one can find the answer to anything on the web. (Well, at least stuff that has an answer. "Meaning of life" and such questions are referred to the religious shamans.)
https://www.instructables.com/id/Tac...ometer-cycloc/
Yes, in a roundabout way. Response [post #3] led me believe the 'program' functioned in conversion RPM & wheel diameter to FPM. To date, all the bandsaw FPM gauges I've seen are cable driven analog
Your first interpretation of that post was correct. The bicycle speedos allow the input of the bicycle wheel diameter, so by adjusting the input diameter you can alter the displayed reading for a given RPM of the thing being measured (within the range of acceptable input values). As the m/s value (or FPM) is directly proportional to the RPM of the bandsaw wheel it is only necessary to fudge the input wheel diameter for the readout to be in appropriate linear units. That is a trivial calculation. If the calculated fudged diameter is below what the bicycle speedo accepts then you can fudge the reading by integer multiples by the simple expedient of getting multiple pulses from each rev of the band saw wheel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toolmaker51
The above only applies to the use of the bicycle speedos (mentioned in post 3) or other tachos which allow for a method of calibration. IT DOES NOT APPLY to the type of tacho shown in the first post. These have no calibration or adjustment features, they are made to display RPM based on a single pulse per rev.
However, it would be a simple project to put an Arduino or similar micro between the pickup and display, programmed to convert the pulse rate into a linear measure which could be made m/s or FPM at the press of a button or flick of a switch. The programme (confusingly called a sketch in Arduino speak) could have the bandsaw wheel diameter hard coded before being downloaded from a PC. That would keep the programming simple but would mean that minor software changes would be needed for each wheel diameter or there are various ways to set it up to accept the diameter data via controls on the device itself, like programming a VFD or setting the time on a digital clock. The Arduino programming would be more complex in that case.
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Thanks Captainleeward! We've added your Lathe Tachometer to our Measuring and Marking category,
as well as to your builder page: Captainleeward's Homemade Tools. Your receipt:
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Adding a couple of buttons or even pot to the Arduino that can be used to vary a constant is not that hard. My new favorite way is use these super cheap encoders to set values https://howtomechatronics.com/tutori...s-use-arduino/ . But then, why use the Arduino as an intermediate device. You can simply implement the Arduino as the whole tachometer. All you need is the magnetic pickup.Quote:
Originally Posted by tonyfoale
Bicycle trip computer pickups typically use reed switches. These don't do well at high speed and might not work properly for a lathe or mill. A Hall sensor works much better A reflective photodetector is also excellent (example https://www.amazon.com/s?k=069525909...f=nb_sb_noss_1)
An Amazon link to a complete tach similar to what Tony Foal posted above (uses magnetic Hall sensor): https://www.amazon.com/EEEKit-Digita.../dp/B07PT7QPXM). You'll need a 12v external supply though.
One comment on the use of that type. They come supplied with a small disc magnet, the pickup is polarity sensitive so it is important which side of the magnet faces the pickup. There is no mention of this in the "instructions". I found out the hard way.Quote:
Originally Posted by FEM2008
I have been thinking along the lines of a lathe rev counter and have thought of an electronic bicycle speedometer as I have used one on a wind speed indicator. I have tried this experimentally and it could work but there is quite a bit of calculating and setting that will have to be done, like determining the best wheel circumference to use (small would be better and the idea might only really work on slower lathes - Myford ML 7) I will come back on any further experiments or add to other trials that crop up here. Thanks for getting this thread going Captainleeward.
