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    Set over tailstock centre

    Like most I am reluctant to disturb my tailstock from its dead centre setting. Rather than make a new device I decided that my small boring head would do the same job, all I needed was to make a new No 2 Mt shank to replace the No 3 which is usually fitted. Next was a decent hard centre to fit it and I turned one from an old end mill with my CBN tool, the swarf this produces is as abrasive as grinding dust (tiny shards of flying HSS chips) so lathe and eye protection is needed. So far this has worked very well and will suffice until I finally get around to making a taper turning attachment.
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    Thanks olderdan! We've added your Set Over Tailstock Center to our Lathe Accessories category,
    as well as to your builder page: olderdan's Homemade Tools. Your receipt:




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    I was the same as you about moving my tailstock until I finally got a steel bar and made it into a test bar for setting my tailstock on center. Now I'm not as reluctant to move my tailstock because it's relatively easy to put it back exactly on center. Your device though is much easier and quicker.
    If you can't make it precise make it adjustable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olderdan View Post
    Like most I am reluctant to disturb my tailstock from its dead centre setting. Rather than make a new device I decided that my small boring head would do the same job, all I needed was to make a new No 2 Mt shank to replace the No 3 which is usually fitted. Next was a decent hard centre to fit
    My own reluctance to making tapers using an offset centre owes more to the offence that the imperfect centre geometry causes in my geometrically inclined brain. I have always thought that spherical or hemispherical ends on the centres was better for tapers. Coincidentally, only a few days ago I was considering this but could not find any for sale. I started thinking about how to make these, bearing in mind that they would need to be hard with a good surface finish.

    Then I remembered that I had some small elephant's foot valve actuators. These have a male threaded shank with a ball on the end and a wobbly bit which contacts the valve. Removal of the wobbly bit leaves the threaded shank and hardened ground ball. Then it is just a matter of modifying a couple of non-hardened MT arbors or centres to take the threaded shank.

    The pic. shows two types. On the left is what I was talking about, on the right is an alternative version which has a flattened ball. That ball could be replaced with a full circle ball. The version on the left would be my choice though, the ball is a better size, i.e. smaller.

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    Your observations are correct and I am aware that offset cone centres are a compromise. I am guilty of ignoring my own advice when I made that point in reply to an older post advising the use of a ball contact in this circumstance. I will make a modification.
    BTW all my attempts to contact you have bounced back so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olderdan View Post
    BTW all my attempts to contact you have bounced back so far.
    That is strange because I have received an email to which I have replied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olderdan View Post
    Your observations are correct and I am aware that offset cone centres are a compromise. I am guilty of ignoring my own advice when I made that point in reply to an older post advising the use of a ball contact in this circumstance.
    Are ball centres commercially available. My searches turn up nothing except for a few DIY versions with large balls which only rest on the edge.



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