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    Silver Soldering threaded joint technique.

    Hi All

    This is a technique I use to silver solder two components held together with a thread.

    I am currently making the pistons for my 3” Foden Steam Wagon. These could have been machined from solid bar but would have been very wasteful. So opted for a two piece fabrication, silver soldered together. The fabricated pistons and rods are left oversized so they can be machined to dimensions after silver soldering, to make sure everything ends up true and concentric.

    The two pieces were threaded M8 for added strength and then soldered. To ensure the solder on a joint like this can flow freely through the joint and around the threads, I like to plane a groove along the thread to aid good penetration through the joint. The threads are also not tightened as the solder relies on a gap for the capillary action for the solder to flow.

    The photos will help show the process.

    Silver Soldering threaded joint technique.-img_8315.jpeg HSS chamfering tool turned on its side so the grove can be planned/broached.

    Silver Soldering threaded joint technique.-img_8316.jpeg Tool in place ready to cut grove.

    Silver Soldering threaded joint technique.-img_8317.jpeg Cut grove along thread.

    Silver Soldering threaded joint technique.-img_8318.jpeg Piston and rods ready for soldering.

    Silver Soldering threaded joint technique.-img_8319.jpeg High pressure piston blank.

    Silver Soldering threaded joint technique.-img_8320.jpeg Silver Soldering threaded joint technique.-img_8321.jpeg Fluxed joint ready for heat and soldering.

    Silver Soldering threaded joint technique.-img_8322.jpeg Silver Soldering threaded joint technique.-img_8323.jpeg

    Silver Soldering threaded joint technique.-img_8325.jpeg Pickle bath to remove flux.

    Silver Soldering threaded joint technique.-img_8326.jpeg Solder flowed all the way through the joint.

    Silver Soldering threaded joint technique.-img_8327.jpeg Silver Soldering threaded joint technique.-img_8328.jpeg Both HP and LP fabrications ready for finish machining.

    Silver Soldering threaded joint technique.-img_8329.jpeg
    Finished turned low pressure piston. The solder has flowed in and around thread and the groove is also filled by the solder making for a strong joint.

    Thank you for viewing and hope you find this helpful.

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    Last edited by thehomeengineer; Jun 16, 2024 at 02:13 PM.

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    Hi All

    I have added a couple more photos to show the piston rod side of the joint on both the HP and LP pistons to show the thin ring of silver solder in joint.

    Silver Soldering threaded joint technique.-silver-solder-ring.jpg Silver Soldering threaded joint technique.-silver-solder-ring-2.jpg

    Still a little bit more machining to complete the pistons and rods. Piston ring grooves and a taper on the rod with slot for locking key to connect to crosshead.

    Silver Soldering threaded joint technique.-machined.jpg
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    Congratulations thehomeengineer - your threaded joint silver soldering method is the Tool Tip of the Month for June 2024!

    Nice technique for a solid joint, and yet another bit of knowledge from your miniature Foden Steam Wagon build.

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    Very nice. Love to see the engine you are building!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hemmjo View Post
    Very nice. Love to see the engine you are building!!
    Thank you. I have a website where you can view some of the projects I am working on including the Foden and other finished projects. This is the link: http://www.modelengineeringworkshop.co.uk
    Hope you find it interesting
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