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Students cutting wood using a hacksaw.
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Previously:
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...185#post233584
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...4907#post80809
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...305#post185063
America's future...
There were no survivors.
America's present! Who let her get that far along without correcting her? Don't shame the students for bad teachers!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoosiersmoker
She almot got there, if she had carried in with the tilted cut..............
Not just America, much of the Western world, that said in our 'student' (PhD students that is) workshop very very few have any idea of how to make things using hand tools, and even few machine tools, when they first arrive from anywhere in the world. Part of my job is to 'facilitate' their learning how to, as a Tech I'm not allowed to 'teach' even though I hold formal pedagogical qualifications, only Academic's can 'teach' even though most hold no pedagogical qualifications at all!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoosiersmoker
Some truth to the saying, those who can, do, and those who can't, teach.
And that can't teach, teach the teachers!Quote:
Originally Posted by albertq
There's hope yet.
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There is a noticeable trend of younger people choosing trade school over subjectively less useful degrees. Hope, indeed.
Thank God. Things were so screwed up for decades. EVERYBODY went to university for communications or gender studies degrees so they could graduate and make coffee at Starbucks. There's a terrible labor shortage problem in almost every industry now. Younger people will not do hands on work. You walk into any construction site or plant and you'll see a whole bunch of people who are 50+, a lot who are 40-50, a few who are 30-40, and not many under 30s. There is going to be a catastrophic labor crash in 10-15 years as people start retiring. A number of countries are experiencing this. Things are going to get interesting....Quote:
Originally Posted by ductape
This is my whole thing by the way. I build automated systems for industry so they can dodge the labor crash.
So speaking of soft spoiled younger people. Last year I was trying to hire somebody. I have a shop that's about 30 minutes outside a major city. I went through, I dunno, 30+ people and couldn't get anyone. Why? NOBODY WAS WILLING TO DRIVE TO WORK. And this wasn't a money thing. Most of the time we didn't even get to the point where wages were discussed. Everybody just wants to work from home.
Where the US leads the UK will surely follow, I hope so in this case as we're still in the thrall of getting a University degree, and I say that as a University Tech. Too many s-too-dense have absolutely no chance of paying off their student debts, a great way of keeping them poor that suits the elites.Quote:
Originally Posted by ductape
Looks like some kind of competition or final exam maybe?
You can go far in masonry if you have the drive.
This makes me spit, just look at the set up, the way the vise is wobbling. And I bet there’s not a handsaw anywhere, or chisels. I saw technology teaching degenerate from thorough grounding in basic shop practice, to colouring in worksheets, (this was “design”.) When kids wanted to make, say, a box, they had no idea how to join the sides. The girl does not look learning disabled! But she hasn’t the sense to turn the plank over! However, what makes me spit even more is the saying, “…those who can’t, teach.” I taught and I can. Those who quote it are inverted snobs.
That phrase is very old and may be more about understanding than ability. Depending on the situation, it didn't apply then and certainly doesn't now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philip Davies
You are correct. Young people (some of them) these days are in for a rude awakening. IMHO, because at some point they will have to do something to earn their keep.Quote:
Originally Posted by nova_robotics