Thanks for the tip on the frame forward and back! I had always used LR arrow but know that isn't frames? I couldn't tell the wing dipped or rose at all on impact, but bet there were tears in the fabric the way that cow went down.

As for the bird strike in the 210...Sheeze blood and feathers wouldn't be the only clean up imho. Scary and lucky as heck to hit in the middle like that. Thank goodness he had 28 years of experience and got an atta boy and Merry Christmas!

Last time I saw the Thunderbirds at Mather the gal pilot had a bird strike in the middle of a tight maneuver with 2 others...graceful as all get out she pulled away, circled around and landed safely.