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clydeman (Mar 1, 2025), emu roo (Mar 1, 2025), Toolmaker51 (Mar 6, 2025)
That looks like some sort of sticky bitumin tar type seal.
I really don't like the wax seal used in the USA. I've changed to these expanded foam seals, that if the toilet shifts (wood subfloor, always some movement with product use) that so far since putting them in 2011, have had no leaks. I purchased the house with subfloor damage from a leaking wax seal, that some homeown put ceramic tile up to the edge of the existing ceramic base of the toilet. So they buried it 3/8" with cheap as you could get tile, the small geometric pattern of 1inch sq tiles mixed with 2" sq, and random color. When I remodeled, they had poured plaster of paris all around where the subfloor plywood (5/8" 6 layer delaminated) had rotted, and they poured that in to replace the bad material. But the original flange was from a very bad cast iron drain pipe system install. 1955 era build, by 'hillbilly construction brothers'. They built three, mine was the first, and from seeing how gray weathered the subfloor plywood is, I think they ran out of money after they got the basement walls up, and the 2x12 floor joists with subfloor plywood installed before winter shut them down.
I put in all new WDV 4" PVC drain system, that is per the required slope per foot, and now I just need a new septic system.
I guess I've been lucky. I've never had one leak, and I've been around for a while.
Stupid is forever, ignorance can be fixed.
I think it depends on the subfloor. If this is slab on grade, then nothing moves. But in a wood frame home, with wood floors, you know that urine leaks around the side of the bowl (boys miss), and that starts the dryrot around the toilet. Homes in this area of the north, are not hot on ceramic tile (high end homes and addon cost for those that like to clean it) so the norm has been plastic flooring embossed with fake tiles and such. That's cut around the edge of the ceramic toilet in my experience on new homes, as the flooring installed comes after the plumbers have set the fixtures. So the subfloors start to rot. So you get differential settling, and leaks of solid wax that can't rebound from being crushed, and that leak with every flush, accelerates the destruction of the subfloor, as most homeowners, ignore issues until catastrophic. Most, ok many, some, too many.
In the video, this is a solid floor to a solid edge of the pipe, and most likely the standard plumbing practice in that part of the world.
I see the video is selling a tool to align to that pipe. I see no fasteners to hold the toilet to the floor or flange as is typical in the US with PVC pipe. So I'm guessing that black donut seal, is also a glue to keep the toilet in place. And people know not to rock on it.
Who doesn't appreciate locating a blind hole? But no closet bolts?Originally Posted by ToolTalkBot
There's a blue tag underside of bowl, Asian characters, no clue about their version of any NPC.
Recently finished big remodel of 3 bathrooms. Rebuilt two of the antique American Standard, bought one combined bowl/ tank, that I placed myself.
Easy, no. Successful, yes.
But that dolly is nicely done. Looks to be adapted from a walker. If they get made into carriages for dogs with amputations, why not?
Sincerely,
Toolmaker51
...we'll learn more by wandering than searching...
why does it appear that there is a second drain hidden by the blue tag? There are also holes for anchoring but only accessible from the back of the toilet
Never try to tell me it can't be done
When I have to paint I use KBS products
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