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yes... https://www.renewablesfirst.co.uk/hy...plan-turbines/Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralphxyz
oh no thats for a wind turbine,I dont see any water anywhere:smash:
1941 dress factory workers. San Juan, Puerto Rico.
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US Army Privates Mearl Hatfield and Clen C. Campbell operating the portable laundry diesel engine, New Guinea, 19 Apr 1943.
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are me privates near that diesel engine doing laundry....better keep them privates away from them belts or your laundry will really be soiled!!!along with your love life:sweating:
Well they'd have to be privates, because making a corporal do it would be ...corporal punishment...[gdr]
marksbug and bruce.desertrat cut ahead in joke queue.
So I took the high road and looked at history. Mountains of content for Allied effort [340,000 troops] to capture from defending Imperial forces of 500,000. Operative laundry ~13 months after amphibious landings. Among, if not toughest campaign in Pacific Theater, 23 January 1942 – August 1945
no job was eazy there, no job was unimportant,they did what was needed and told to do. some pulled their weight some pulled more.some were under qualified some were over qualified. sorry for jumping ahead, but my laundry was almost done and I didn't want any wrinkles from my wife....
Blacksmithing class at West High School in Salt Lake City, Utah. 1915.
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lunch time!!!! looks like cooking class!!!
Lol, that reminds me of the year-end party we had in my HS welding/blacksmith class. A buddy of mine's uncle was the local Hebrew National dealer so he got a dozen packages of hotdogs and we roasted 'em over the forges (ours we gas not coal fired, tho...) took about 15 seconds per ...Quote:
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I want a Buffalo Forge forge!
Ralph
Are those adjustable exhaust hoods? Is there some blower that pulls the smoke/etc. out of the room through those adjustable hoods?
Anybody know?
And this is why we have such a dysfunctional workforce today.
People were trained early how to work by people that knew their trades and all the associated information concerning them.
The hoods you see over the forges are not for exhaust, they are for intensifying and concentrating the amount of heat that can be producedQuote:
Originally Posted by CharlesWaugh
The whole world took a serious downturn when it stopped being about quality and money took over.
Both of these comments play a significant role in the loss of pride in workmanship, and in the quality of goods are services today.
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The real problems however are much more complex. Below are some of my views on the subject.Quote:
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1) Apprentice programs have a difficult time keeping up with changes in technology. People trained, “by people that knew their trades and all the associated information concerning them.” will seldom be able to reach the same level of competence as their teacher. The result is, for each generation, skills and knowledge are lost.
2) Technology in all “trades” changes so quickly, 1/2 life of information gets shorter every year. Recent graduates of any program in any field, are already behind as the program they completed was designed before the latest advancement was developed. (trades here includes most everything, from Doctors to Plumbers to Fisherman)
3) The “push” a while back to make sure that everyone can go to “college” was key to the problem. The result of this was devaluation of vocational education. When I began teaching in 1974, every year, before scheduling classes for high school, every 8th grade student one on a field trip to the local vocational high school, to expose students the possibilities. By the time I retired in 2009, that was gone, students are discouraged from attending vocational schools. Schools are now “graded” on the percentage of students accepted into college. Yes schools actually get a grade card now!!! https://reportcard.education.ohio.gov
High Schools PUSH students to go to college, even though they are better suited to a different track, because it scores points on the school “report card”. This has recently changed to include tracks other than 4 year institutions. Although they are tracked separately giving the impression that anything less than “real college” is somehow less important.
4). I believe that colleges are mainly responsible for #3 as they are in it to make money. The more students, the more money. I also believe that government collaborated with colleges for this push, while claiming to help students by providing “low interest” loans because “everyone should be able to go to college”. This allowed colleges to slowly raise tuition leaving graduates with huge debt.
5) Far too many students “role models” are just plain BAD. Too many people are just rude to each other. The level of disrespect in the world is … SCARY… on so many levels.
When I was teaching, during the first days of class I often told students “they would never be as smart as I am”. Then I would pause just a little to let them think about that for a while, it was interesting to watch the look of defiance grow on their faces. But I had their attention. I would then continue, “you MUST end up much smarter than I am”. You are going to be running things when I am old. Then explain the reasoning, I cannot possibly teach you everything I know, in addition, much of when I know is already outdated. My plan to do is to teach you how to learn, so you will be able to learn about and to do things that have not even been thought of yet.
I tried to instill that pride in what they do, no matter what it is, if you are going to do it, do it right.
Enough of my rant. I admit I am little fired up this morning!!
Smile at people, even it is hidden by a mask. Better yet, draw a smile on your mask!!!!
Thanks for the rant and, believe me, that is not meant sarcastically.
I'd add to the points you've made but I've been down that rabbit hole too often and have resolved to not waste my time trying to solve another societal ailment beyond my reach.
The one point in your post that I want to thoroughly endorse is contained in this quote...
"My plan to do is to teach you how to learn, so you will be able to learn about and to do things that have not even been thought of yet."
Developing techniques and, more importantly, the discipline needed to learn from experience after leaving school is the key to coping successfully with life.
John Morrow Screw and Nut Company employees. 1909.
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They are a downdraft hood. Some of the exhaust can be recirculated through the blower to increase heat, but they do extract through the floor via a ducted system.
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Threshing by steam engine on W.M. Fellows farm near Kearney, Nebraska. 1910.
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feeding a nation. back when people knew how to work.
And the guy in the center is proof that there was always someone that would lounge against the machine...
hes' just kicking the rocks outa the way so the guy driving has a smoother ride since this was before dampners were installed on tractors....what a nice guy he is.
Yep, he is a leaner.
nah, he's just doing somethen sexy to atractor :rimshot:
That is a machine that was driven to a spot in the field and parked. It was not used to motor around the field. It's sole purpose was to act as a power source to implements that also were placed in the field.
More important is the societal structure that existed then. Typically, a traction engine and the implements were owned by the cooperative to which the farmers subscribed. At that time there was little of the single farmer owning a shed-full of tractors and implements. Industrial farming was barely a pipe dream. In those days, 100 years ago, there was a strong socialist streak among farmers.
It's simply incredible to contemplate how much and how little has changed in the past 100 years. 100 years ago we were in the infantile days of characterizing quantum theory. Today quantum theory is taught in elementary chemistry, no more solar system model of electrons. 100 years ago farmers were socialistic. Today farmers live a life of debt having cash only at the ends of their careers when they sell out.
There is a big difference between being socialistic and being cooperative. In a cooperative situation, both sides have something to offer.
In the last six months, I have had well over a million dollars worth of equipment on my property to do site work. There is NO WAY, I would ever be able to afford to buy or even to rent that much equipment for length of the time I have used it.
Prior to having access to this pool of equipment I have spent many hours doing maintenance and repairs to this and other equipment owned by this company. I was paid very well for that work. I made a proposal, that either of us could have turned down, for this exchange of skills for equipment. Socialism does not work that way.
It is unfortunate that so many farmers are in so much debt, but there are many farmers who are doing very well. The factors that contribute to the plight of farmers is way beyond the scope of this discussion. But is has more to do with past and present policies of governments.
John
many farms have sole to big corprations that manage the farms like conagra and others. some farmers stay and work some dont.but if it's what you want to do, staying on "your family farm" doing the work you love for a corpration that tells you what and when can be a lot better than wondering if and when you will be homeless&farmless. I talked to a farmer some 18 years ago( also former pro baseball player) he was in his late 80's, he and my dad played ball& went to school togeather, best buddies. he had a big farm.then passed it along to conagra to manage was extremely proud that his family far would stay feeding america and he would stay on it. and he was quite well off before and after, more so after and big weight lifted off his mind of if&when. there are many farmers that did not know how to run a farm, just in all ventures there is a better way, a easyer way,a more productive way. and a stubborn way. and oh somany rong ways. and yes many right ways too.yes I knew that was a power unit for the equipment down field. that same unit could be used for many things as well as logging when needed. the feller leaning on the wheel was just posing with his pride and joy for the photographer.
Unloading oyster luggers. Baltimore, Maryland, 1905.
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Is everyone so nicely dressed on the payroll?
'1911'
The skipjack is a traditional fishing boat used on the Chesapeake Bay for oyster dredging. It remains in service due to laws restricting the use of powerboats in the Maryland state oyster fishery . Attachment 36854
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With only 2, possibly 3, doing work I suspect the remainder are just waiting for their ship to come in...
The nicely dressed ones are standing around allowing the stench of the Warf to permeate into their suits so when they get home their wives won't be able to tell where they really spent most of the day
Brokers, wholesalers, distributors. These are not the men who get themselves dirty.
Riveting an M3 tank.
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future enrollees to the school for the deaf
Does that hammer or do one punch...
It’s not for rivets! Come on people, you know that is a Sasquatch size micrometer. 🤯 they have to make sure the armor is at the proper thickness to repel the anti tank rifle rounds.
