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    Quote Originally Posted by FEM2008 View Post
    I think everyone missed the point. While India and Pakistan may have aquired a unique lead in number of stupid kite deaths, the US has a real unique problem with gun violence that is not found anywhere else in the world. I am sure there are other unique examples as as well if you look hard enough.
    I think you are not actually looking at the rest of the world. https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/...ce/by-country/ We're #74 on the list of 183 countries, but we've got about 1/8th of the violent deaths per 100,000 people that Honduras has.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...e#cite_note-82

    4th sentence in the article says Venezuela has the highest death rate from firearms in the world. Though the article is also noted to be out of date. The other link shows Venezuela as 2nd in violent deaths.

    Considering that, also according to that chart, we in the USA have the highest number of firearms per capita in the world, at 120.5/100,000 and our next competitor is Serbia with about a third of that, we're not doing nearly as badly as you think.

    https://www.guns.com/news/2020/11/17...-ars-150m-mags Data the National Shooting Sports Foundation says there are 434 million guns in the US. There are only 333 million people in the US according to the US Census bureau. They also say that 214 million of them have been produced since 1991. I can believe that.

    In my collection of firearms, I have one that was built sometime between 1884 and 1889. There is a saying: Guns have only two enemies. Politicians and rust. Considering the number of guns in this country, and the fact that politicians have been trying to eliminate them for most of my life, and have in fact reduced the number of folks who got proper training on gun safety, I think we're doing pretty well. I've watched law abiding gun owners and shooters be demonized and blamed for the murder rate in this country since I was 8 years old. I'm 66 now. In all my life, and I've been shooting for 62 years of that 66, I have never shot a person. Nor has any of my guns. And I spent 24 of those years in the military.

    There is a considerable amount of "information" about guns out there that is flatly wrong. It would be more properly called "misinformation" except that the folks pushing that info won't admit they're wrong. Some of that is that they are, themselves, misinformed, and some of it flat out lying. AR-15s, for example, are not machine guns. They are also not high-powered rifles. There is also no such thing as a "Ghost Gun." Guns in the United States were not required to be serialized until 1968. People in the colonies, and then the United States, once it was formed, have always made firearms. They've always tried to make guns with higher accuracy, higher capacities, higher rates of fire, and higher power. In 1830, one Jonathan Browning was making and selling multi-shot breach-loading rifles that could hold up to 25 rounds. He was not, by any stretch of the imagination, the first gunsmith in America. Under current US law, it is perfectly legal to make a firearm at home. There are restrictions in some states, but frankly, they are in violation of the 2nd Amendment. It has only been since 1986 that machine guns were not allowed to be manufactured in the US except for the military and police.

    And the original laws that restricted ownership of firearms were aimed at blacks, free or otherwise, and later other immigrants. Gun Control, at its roots, IS, WAS, and always has been racist. And it was mostly the Democrats that were responsible for that.

    For anyone interested in gun culture, here's a good introduction: https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uplo...nsequences.pdf

    It is a fictionalized accounting some of the fairly recent history of gun control in the US, written in the early 1990's, when there was a great deal of angst about various parties in the US who were seriously pushing gun control. The latter half of the book is about events that did not happen, fortunately, but some of the stuff in there did, if perhaps not exactly as it was written. Ruby Ridge and Waco, for example, are recounted as best he could reconstruct from the records available then. The book was published in 1996. And it is fiction, but based in fact. The main protagonist of the story is several years older than I am, and our experiences are quite different, but I was easily able to identify with him.

    Bill

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