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1.6 billion ounces of gold worth around $ 3 billion (USD).
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Previously:
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...123#post195455
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...906#post187029
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...268#post184959
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...196#post207826
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...986#post187347
1.6E9 oz / (16 oz/lb * 2000 lb/ton) = 50,000 tons
The Titanic weighed 52,000 tons.
I know gold is very dense but I can't believe that pile weighs as much as an ocean liner. Did somebody get millions and billions confused?
Even if it's 1.6E9 troy ounces, the conversion (1 lbavdp = 14.58 ozt) is close to using 16.
Also,
1.6 billion ounces of gold worth around $ 3 billion (USD).
suggests an ounce of gold is worth about $2. The current market price is about $1800 per ounce.
How much of that you think you can get into 3 Mini Coopers...
Until there are 12 flat tires.....Quote:
Originally Posted by IntheGroove
How many 125 to 200 grain Hollow point bullets can I cast out of 100 of those gold bars?
There's a car mechanic/rocket jockey/big twit who could put 50 of those piles in his basement if he wanted to. Oh, lordy! Just send me home with one brick; I don't need to build a whole house out of 'em!
IF it's 1.6 billion ounces, there being 437.5 grains per ounce, a simple calculation. With an instrument carrying more digits than mine; it stopped at "E".Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank S
A LOT!Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank S
But they will either be very short, or very hollow to keep the weight down. :D
480 grains per ounce - it is goldQuote:
Originally Posted by Toolmaker51
Ah, yes, another idiocy of the mishmash of inferial units. Lets have two units with the same name. Avoirdupois pounds and ounces and troy pounds and ounces. Lets make them close to being equal but not too close so the need for arithmetic when making comparisons is never sacrificed.Quote:
Originally Posted by 12L14
And just to make sure there's enough confusion to go around, lets make the number of ounces to a pound different for the two types. Sixteen for avoirdupois and twelve for troy. This guarantees that the troy ounce is heavier than the avoirdupois ounce, and the troy pound is lighter than the avoirdupois pound.
Nobody seems to know why the British decided that the precious metal workers should use a different system of weights. My guess is that it made it easier to cheat their customers.
Lest they be accused of being influenced by the British, developed their own system. There were 16 drops to the troy ounce, 16 ounces to the Scottish troy pound, and 16 pounds to the stone.
You can read all about it here...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_weight#Conversions
Take a lunch and a thermos of strong drink; you're gonna need it.
Being thinner would probably not be a huge problem since gold is not quite as soft as lead. I think if I were to make bullets out of gold though I would cast them thin then fill with sodium and seal the tip with wax. they would deform on impact with moderate penetration then burst into flames once the sodium hit the wet soft tissue Dead is dead and it doesn't matter how they get that way Mercury might be fine if stored in a freezer and only used in very cold climates if it didn't disintegrate from the heat coming out the barrel. Spent nuclear fuel rods might make good bullets but handling them would be as hazardous to the sniper as the victim.Quote:
Originally Posted by piper184
Oh well guess I'll just have to stick to accumulating more lead little over 600 lbs now
A little depleted uranium does make a good round...
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We're going back in time, following Marv making rounds of different institutions as they're conceiving all the systems of measurement. Epic, the today Marv vs the historic organizations.
There are many potential outcomes. Two most likely;
a) Everything winds up base 10.......
b) All as we see now, and they have his middle finger right next to Galileo's......
Ladies and Gentlemen, place your bets.
And the idiocy marches on...Quote:
Originally Posted by Toolmaker51
Shotgun gauges...
The logical measure is diameter (ball OD or barrel ID) and the means to measure such certainly existed if shotguns were being manufactured but no, let's calibrate the gun according to some obscure tradesman's (the lead caster) measure of convenience. If I developed a new type of super drill and decided to label them with a number that represented how many of them it took to make a pound of weight, wouldn't you think me nuts?
Then there's barrels...
There are seven different barrel sizes used in the USA, with the size being dependent on the contents. Their names and metric equivalents are as follows: US cranberry (95.5 liters), US dry (115.628 liters), US liquid (119.24 liters), US federal (117.348 liters), US federal proof spirits (151.416 liters), US drum (208.4 liters), US petroleum (135 kg.), US petroleum statistical (158.99 liters).
And all those quaint, folksy names that conceal what is being measured...
In the inferial system, which of the following are names of legitimate units?
grad, sack, minim, pinch, mil, turn, oscar, point, jeroboam
grad, pinch, turn, and oscar are not inferial units, AFAIK. However, as the idiocy escalates, this may change in the future. The oscar would be an ideal unit for measuring the weight of small statuettes :-)
OK, I'll schedule stops at Beretta, Holland & Holland, Rigby too.
BTW, Beretta at 496 years old, highly likely that gauge hoo-haw started that era.
re pinch; anyone here with a grandmother. used that cooking and baking every day.
found a terrific quote.
America is a young country, and American gun owners and manufacturers always keep an eye on the future. However, we can learn some important lessons from the longevity of Old World gun companies. What’s Beretta’s secret?
“Beretta has been continuously reinventing itself for nearly 500 years,” Francesco Valente, General Manager and COO of Beretta USA, said. “We think in terms of decades, not quarters – that is why we can invest so much in research and development and invest in environmental conservation to preserve the future of our planet."
The shotgun gauge thing may hark back to the days of muzzle loading cannons which were referred to by the weight of their shot rather than the diameter of the bore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toolmaker51
Your former employer, the USN, is not innocent of measurement confusion. They list the Iowa's main guns as 16 inch, 50 caliber. What genius decided to measure the length of the barrel in multiples of the bore? And then use the same term that has an entirely different meaning in the small arms arena.
BTW, I most definitely do not argue to ensure everything "winds up base 10". Reread my white paper here...
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...1486#post93973
and you'll understand why powers of ten simplify, but are not the real substance of a rational measurement system.
I hope, truly, to not have incensed Mr. Klotz.
Visualizing a modern expert presenting solid arguments contrary to those establishing a system, plain irresistible.
The selection of "base 10" was a simplification. It would improve plenty in a general sense, but certainly not all.
Galileo's finger, coupled with mid 80's recant of his excommunication, is a long time favorite; as if a trophy.
No worries, no incense here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toolmaker51
The church has finally admitted that 'it does move'*, only a few centuries too late. Perhaps it was for the best. It's hopefully made them sensitive to the fact that religion has no business dispensing scientific "truth".
Despite their failure at astronomy, the church has harbored some accomplished scientists...
Gregor Mendel, the father of modern genetics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel
Georges Lemaître, physicist, responsible for the concept of the expanding universe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lema%C3%AEtre
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As Galileo was being taken away to house arrest by the inquisition, it's rumored he muttered, "And yet, it moves" referring to his assurance that the earth revolves around the sun and not vice versa as the church ordained.
My grandmother said that all churches and all religions were a bunch of heathens except for the one she went to, and she had her doubts about our Chicken eating preacher at times, however that didn't stop her from serving fried chicken every sunday knowing he would be joining for dinnerQuote:
Originally Posted by mklotz
