Had something similar to this at beaches near where I live about 40 years ago and it was very successful for many years. Mostly picking up sea weed after storms back then, not plastic. Then along came the eco-nazis and had it stopped because rotting sea weed is part of the cycle of nature and contributes to beach biodiversity. Now after a big storm it lies there festering and rotting in the sun for months before it slowly disappears.
I live in a sea side town and the local authorities are using a beach cleaning machine just like that, it is not used for seaweed cleanup but for the litter that people leave behind. It is not a problem in the off season but summer visitors foul it up on a daily basis, littering is a big problem in the UK and we seem to have lost respect for our surroundings.
olderdan (Jun 8, 2018)
Why clean up when a machine will do it for you?
Kidding, of course. But it is interesting to note the rise of machines that complete basic human tasks vs. the decrease of humans performing those tasks themselves. Perfectly acceptable for mundane tasks; troubling for tasks that comprise an integral part of the social contract, like picking up after yourself.
PJs (Jun 10, 2018)
I have almost 2800 ft of road frontage. being out in the the county there is not a lot of traffic but every once in a while there will be a convoy of terrorist I mean tourist pass through on their way to nowhere. It will be a sure bet that after they pass through somewhere along the 50 ft wide section between my fence and the road there will be a wide assortment of trash that I guarantee didn't happen by blowing out of the back of some farmer's pickup. Because there is not a starbucks or whataburger with in 75 miles of here.
Seems to me at some level, Machines completing common task is a great idea just badly implemented and just gives them more time to use <144 characters to communicate, waste more resources and build Big Data, AI so they don't have to think or behave anymore...or...something?
Frank S, I hear you too. Just in the "News" last night they showed a video of a pickup with a tilt bed dumping about a yard and a half of concrete scrap in front of someones house in Oakland which is a big problem there. The Mayor has now hired 3 more Trash Police (actually "Trash Forensic Specialist") to sort through it an determines "who done-it", Plus a 311 Phone line, then more police to track them down and fine them. So now we have expensive high tech equipment and people to solve such mysterys and attach a $1k fine...are you kid'n me? How about we catch the Smuck(s) (with the TFS's, I guess), make them pick it up, fine them $1k plus hauling/dump fees, and assign them 6 mo. of pickup duty as "Community Service"...second offense, $5k fine and take away their DL for 5 years.
It's a more Systemic Problem, me thinks...
Last edited by PJs; Jun 10, 2018 at 03:01 PM.
As more and more people move to where I live the rubbish builds and the beaches are where it shows the most. I hate litterbugs with a passion. Another problem that has come with more people is the whingers complaining about seaweed on the beaches and it took years of uphill battle to get the council to stop removing it,(very well connected these whingers),seaweed rotting on a beach is a vital part of the ecosystem. A lot of small life forms ranging from fungi to a plethora of insects rely on it and in turn small fish rely on them. Pretty dumb removing a fundamental part of the food chain just for someones aesthetic values.
PJs (Jun 23, 2018)
Ran across this today and thought about this post. I had seen the devastating environmental issues in India before but this was inspiring.
Some good articles on it in the Guardian and The Global Citizen. It's been going on now for about 2 years and seems the word is out and being taken to the locals for further help.
Perhaps humans as machines can be recursive...
Vid is only about 3 minutes.
Frank S (Jul 11, 2018)
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