Cybertruck...or how NOT to build a vehicle

[neilbourjaily]

Recent articles compare the elon-pickup to a F-450 as far as towing is concerned.

[Scrounga]

People don’t seem to realise that unlike internal combustion engines that develop their maximum torque at at certain revs, electric motors develop their maximum torque at 1 RPM. That’s why they invented diesel-electric trains. The Diesel engine drives a massive generator for the electric motors.
The slack and rolling start had very little to do with it. The F150 has to build revs to get to maximum torque at say 1500 rpm and get that to the ground without breaking traction. The Tesla can apply maximum torque without the revs so has much more control as to how the torque is applied. Also you need to look at the weight distribution of the 2 vehicles. How much weight is over the rear axle of each vehicle as the F150 has very little weight on the back it has a very high chance of breaking traction. If you want to compare apples with apples put the Tesla drivetrain into the F150 and do it again or stick a ton in the back of the F150.

[cmarlow]

I have no idea how much the Tesla battery pack weighs or where is sits, nor do I know how much each vehicle weighs.
Anyhow, a truck is not a tractor and is not really meant as a machine for towing. A truck is meant to carry a load and any extra weight on the rear axle robs the truck of payload capability. This means an empty truck has quite low traction. A truck towing a trailer is supposed to be carrying some of the trailer's load on the hitch. Even a tow truck is designed to lift at least part of the load it is hauling, either on the crane or on the stinger.
It would be more fair to compare how much weight they can carry as well as how large of a volume they can carry instead of how good they are at pretending to be tractors.

[jdurand]

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[MeJasonT]

Fake news - the tesla's windows would have popped out and everything. must be get at tesla day.

[ncollar]

That reminds me of power braking and old station wagon I had in the 70's. If the Ford rolled of it would do the same as the Tesla. I agree sick!

[Duke_of_URL]

DC motors have almost infinite torque. There's almost no way for the conventional truck to win that battle. That said, the Toyota can go places you'd never take an electric, like off-roading, that is unless you take your own big solar panels and don't mind being out there for weeks charging up your truck to get back home.

[old kodger]

And the river crossing might be interesting also

[jdurand]

And the river crossing might be interesting also

Of course the river could be used to put out the Tesla.

Elon needs to come up with a new car using a sodium battery. And to make it light, a magnesium frame. MUCH more "thrilling" to drive. For a body, use nitrocellulose, worked great for model airplanes and the Hindenburg.

[MeJasonT]

@jdurand , I have a sneaky suspicion you work for Tesla, I heard a rumour that was there next design.