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Drone shot of an aircraft graveyard.
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Previously:
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...750#post124142
Is this the one outside Tucson?
Pretty sure it is, and during the summer monsoons, too, based on the rain in the mountains and the green "grass"...
I circumnavigated that by car in '98 or so. It was huge. It had a lot of helicopters, too.
Yup, definitely the Rincon Mountains with the storm on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by bruce.desertrat
Pima Air&Space Museum offers tours: https://pimaair.org/plan-your-visit/available-tours/
Under "Required ID" it says...Quote:
Originally Posted by bruce.desertrat
Full name as shown on Driver’s License or State Issued Photo ID, including middle initial or middle name (passports are NOT accepted for U.S. Citizens)
Interesting that a United States Air Force associated organization doesn't recognize documents issued by the US Dept. of State and accepted by most countries in the world.
I know I don't trust the government but I didn't realize that government agencies don't trust the government.
I suspect it's more they're not allowed to accept passports for some reason, not that they won't accept or trust them. The base has some pretty weird security.
And it's not like anything there is a state secret or anything. I mean, heck they have B52's and B1's visibly destroyed on the ground visible to satellites as a part of treaty compliance. (1991 SALT, iirc) http://cdn.neonsky.com/4bd5ebf97479c...216-0276-1.jpg
Ok, can you suggest some reasons why they would not be allowed to accept passports in this application ?Quote:
Originally Posted by bruce.desertrat
It's a lot easier to counterfeit a state driver's license than it is to counterfeit an American passport.
I smell an instance of bureaucratic idiocy here and am curious if I'm right.
That is weird. Home address requirement?
Google search for "passports are not accepted for U.S. citizens" - with double quotes. Enclosing the search in double quotes requires results only matching that exact phrase.
Maybe this same requirement exists elsewhere with slightly different phrasing?
At least in California, proof of citizenship is not required to get a driver's license; only proof of California residency is required...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/de...cy_requirement
Seems to me that security at Pima would be more interested in your citizenship than an address that could easily be faked.
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Originally Posted by bruce.desertrat
It's simpler and stupider than you think. Many places ONLY subscribe to ID services that understand US driver's licence bar codes. I found out about that when a bank needed a scan of both sides of "a government issued ID". Ok, here's my passport data page and to be more complete a scan of my Russian visa in it and the covers with the serial number. Nope, no good. by "government issued ID" they mean US driver's license and nothing else. The scan of the back is all they really use, it's got the bar code.
Even though these birds are not combat ready, I understand they are considered part of the military aircraft inventory.
My license came up for renewal right after they started the Real ID which looks like the normal driver's license but is "better". Quite some time after I'd received it, traveled to Turkey and Russia once or twice, I received a letter in the mail that they hadn't properly issued the early ones. I had to immediately provide more proof of ID, they wanted a current utility bill mailed to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by mklotz
Ah, security. I feel so much better now.
The real irony would have been if one of the further accepted proofs of identity had been a US passport.