Farmers jailbreaking John Deere tractors to repair them - video

[MeJasonT]

Is anyone following the John Deere jailbreak story. does it still have the same momentum.

[greyhoundollie]

"Ditto" I have a 1974 Ford 5600 and a 1973 David Brown 996. If I can't work on it myself I don't own it. Yeah they both break down from time to time. But the parts don't cost $1000.00 +++++ I shop for parts locally with a man who still uses all of the "books" to find part numbers not a computer. He has been writing himself notes on each page in his books for 50 years. He gets me the right part the first time he orders, And if he thinks it is too expensive he looks for another source. I can call him on Sunday morning because it is going to rain and I will loose my hay crop. He will get the part from his shop and drive it too me 25 miles.

The guys with the $200,000 tractors and $350,000 combines still break down as often as I do some times once a day. No one brings them parts on Sunday. They have to wait until Monday and Schedule an appointment.

[MeJasonT]

That also goes for microsoft and google when it comes to being paranoid about protecting inferior products.

[MeJasonT]

Under this current economic global uncertanty and Trumps desire to put America first, you would think that JD's attitude would be starting to hurt them by now.
Am i correct in thinking its only JD doing it. I have not heard anything similar from the likes of Case International or New Holland Ford.

[Frank S]

Under this current economic global uncertanty and Trumps desire to put America first, you would think that JD's attitude would be starting to hurt them by now.
Am i correct in thinking its only JD doing it. I have not heard anything similar from the likes of Case International or New Holland Ford.

The reason why JD is more in your face than the others is JD has pretty much garnered the market with such a wide diverse equipment lineup pretty much like Caterpillar used to think they were the top dog in the construction and mining industries. But actually every manufacture is having their own issues with the tier4 compliant garbage laws.
Things like simple water pumps only have to sit there and pump water to or from one place to another have to be in constant connection with the interweb to tell it how to preform if for some reason the connection goes down the machine becomes self aware and goes into limp mode like trucks on the highway missing a regen cycle or catching fire and burning the driver alive while going down the highway.
I have a friend in Mn. who is one of the owners of Olson farms they buy their 750,000.00 combines from Sweden and have a fleet of them these machines may get used only 3 months a year the rest of the time they are housed in hanger sized barns. during the off season they have their equipment completely gone over from end to end top to bottom to try and insure there will be no break downs during harvest time.
These mammoth mega farms like his can afford to do things like that but smaller farms by comparison like my cousins who own the Mathes family farms in Co. who farm maybe only10,000 acres are finding that it can be cheaper on them to hire most of their tillage and harvesting done by being part of co-ops all of the farmer's equipment becomes leased out to the roving tillage & harvesting managers. People like a neighbor of mine who farm 1000 to 3000 acres don't have the means to do those things like the larger farmers do and certainly nothing like the mega farms can do and guys way down the ladder in the 100 to 500 acre range or smaller are much better off buying older equipment even though their repairs and replacement part costs can at times be devastating to their bottom line.
One day all equipment will probably be much like the fictional SKYNET in the terminator movies all because of the ever increasing restrictions of environmental concerns. Once that happens it will be a short step to total control over the population of the world just flip a switch or upload a code and billions will starve in a year.
But that is just my opinion

[jdurand]

I designed some of the equipment for smart motors, but it was only for diagnosis (short trip from there to build in). You would connect an accelerometer and thermocouple to a motor and then with your phone you would connect with the service center. The tech there would have you change speeds while looking at the live results. He could then tell you if the bearings were bad, good for another month, or all is well.

A certain famous electric car company based near here was using some of the gear I designed, the last I heard.

[Jon]

I'm hearing that instead of having to purchase a new tractor with proprietary software, people are reverting to much older technology.

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[IAMSatisfied]

I'm hearing that instead of having to purchase a new tractor with proprietary software, people are reverting to much older technology.

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Too funny!

Is that the Lone Ranger's wife in the background?

[marksbug]

if they made it out of sheep the farmer would never stop screwing and tinkering with it .

[MeJasonT]

marksbug - oh the old ones are the best