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    High-quality black-and-white photographs of large old machines and tools

    Large black-and-white photographs of old machines are some of the most popular posts in the work crews thread, so I figured they merited their own thread.

    Specifically, large high-quality images that we can enlarge, examine, print, frame, etc. Click on an image for the fullsize version, then you usually click on it again in your browser to see it at its maximum size.

    The Library of Congress website is a good place to search for these. For a specific image, you can check the download options (in the lower-left corner of the photo frame) to see if there's a large filesize photo available for download.

    A good start is the 50,000 ton Wyman-Gordon press, constructed in 1955. Grafton, Massachusetts.

    East.
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    More: Wyman-Gordon 50,000-Ton Forging Press dedicated as a National Historic Mechanical Engineering Landmark by the American Society of Mechanical Engineers
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    Thanks Jon I may have to buy spare ink for my HP design-jet 500 PS and a roll of 42" photo quality paper dig out my miter saw make some frames. Know any one with a surplus supply of old very large single pane windows I have a few 6 ft tempered glass ones double glazed but those things are next to impossible to cut without an oven to anneal them.
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    I am amazed by the size of this machinery. What types of products would have been made?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeoffN View Post
    I am amazed by the size of this machinery. What types of products would have been made?
    At the time of construction, this press (and a similar 50,000 ton forge press) were the largest tools ever created.

    The presses did (and still do) make lots of stuff, most notably airplane parts.

    Basically: per the Treaty of Versailles, which ended WWI in 1919, Germany agreed to surrender some its most valuable iron-producing regions that made steel. You can't really wage a war (let alone a World War) without excellent metalworking, especially in that era. Lacking steel, Germany figured out how to form magnesium, which was reasonably naturally abundant, although it had previously not been practical to form because magnesium is very fickle (prone to cracking, brittleness, etc.). Allied forces noticed these advanced magnesium forgings in downed Axis airplanes. When Allied forces overran Germany, they saw the enormous forge presses that the Germans had built. When US and Soviet forces found these presses (and blueprints for more of them), they dismantled them and shipped them home. The Soviets got the largest press to survive the war (33,000 tons), as well as plans for a 55,000 ton press.

    After WWII, relations between the Soviets and the Americans turned cold. America, realizing that the Soviet invading forces got the largest press AND plans for an even larger one, decided to invest in 10 similar enormous presses - of which I believe 2 are still in operation today. This was the Heavy Press Program: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Press_Program

    Under the Heavy Press Program, ten presses were built: six extrusion presses, and four forging presses. And of those four forging presses, two were 35,000 ton machines, and two broke the record for the world's largest machine. They were 50,000 ton press forges: the Alcoa Press and the Wyman-Gordon Press, pictured above.
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    Very large tooling sheets. Ship bow plate etc, requiring extreme tensil strength.

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    I don't care I still want one to sit in my front yard and crack walnuts with it.
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    When I did my apprenticeship, the machine shop had, (amongst many other lathes) a quite large, czech made lathe, (I forget the name) that had been gifted to the Australian government after WW II, by the Germans as part payment for the war. It was a great machine, that was lovingly tended to by the shop foreman, and woe betide any smart young apprentice who didnt seek his express permission 1st before even cranking the saddle back to fit some stock in the chuck. If he didnt believe you were suitably experienced and adept already on the smaller lathes then you wouldnt even get a look in.

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    This guy did an excellent job making this video covering the Heavy Press Program. He's got a great YT channel, but this one really stands out. 12:47 video:



    Anyway, here's a Mesta roller leveler. From the Library of Congress:

    FRONTAL VIEW OF THE MESTA ROLLER LEVELLER IN HARVEY SHOP. - U.S. Steel Homestead Works, Harvey Shop, Along Monongahela River, Homestead, Allegheny County, PA
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    FYI, I generally post 800px images for immediate viewing, and then the "fullsize" images I post are the largest versions I can find, that I then convert to jpegs. If you want the highest-quality image, for offline reproduction, you can also search at the Library of Congress website. Some of these images are enormous high-quality 50MB+ tiff files.
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    That guy (Machine Thinking) is quite good and informative in his presentation videos. He is especially good and blending old reels with quality narration. The Pictures you have brought forward Jon are just as telling on the enormity and impact these machines have had on humankind. Such High Quality photos and well preserved scans. Thanks Very Much for following the leads from the previous threads and postings on presses.

    So many thoughts and questions are provoked for me, like the giant accumulators @4500psi and what kind of vessel material, welding and QA did they go through to last in use for 60 years, to the holding of tolerance on the giant pistons to keep 4500psi from slicing something in half in a leak...to who shot the pictures and what kind of camera and lenses did they use...and the 50-100 draftsmen (-persons [PC]) working at 1:100/0 scale for probably 5,000 drawings and design changes, plus the blueprint operators with the ammonia machines. And of course the countless Engineers of all trades that designed them, and their untold stories of trials, tribulation and triumph, built prototypes and tested them. And many a sleepless nights of many a worker, engineer, foreman, VP, CEO on a project of these magnitudes being pressed (pun @¿~) to get it done on time and of course on budget!

    At some level these could be considered as additional wonders of the world imho.

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    And I forgot all about all the substations built to run a plant of this size with 1500hp motors...and all those people...then the water, plumbing, and building crew for the building(s) and a cafeteria...and then some.
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    That is an impressive video, I guess that means I can't get one for my front yard. Maybe I can call my congressman and see if He can get Congress to authorize the building of the 200,000 ton press in my back yard Just in case they ever need it.
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