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    With all due respect..

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    - No high rise building in history, including some that burned for weeks, ever collapsed from fire, except the 3 buildings of WTC.
    The WTC towers were a new design. There are very few buildings constructed this way, none that I know of. It there are any, they have not been hit by airplanes.

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    - How two planes caused 3 buildings to fall at free fall speed.. Defy physics.
    It has been very clearly explained. It only defies physics if you do not understand physics.

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    - Demolition engineers have dreamed about doing a perfect demolition job like the 3 buildings of WTC.
    Those claiming that thermite was used clearly do not understand the quantity that would have been required to do that much damage

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    - It is impossible for any structure to fall within its own footprint without controlled demolition. In one day 3 buildings did the impossible.
    Clearly not impossible, especially considering the way the towers were constructed.


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    - Jet fuel/ kerosene fire is not sufficient to melt or even weaken the thick steel structure of WTC.
    The steel did not need to melt. Steel looses most of its strength as temperatures rise. At 600˚C, 1112˚F, steel has lost over 50% of its yield strength. The molten material seen spilling from the tower prior to collapse was most likely part of the 50 TONS of aluminum airplane that had melted in the inferno.

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    - The wreckage/ steel rubbles (crime scene evidence) quickly removed and destroyed. The steel rubbles shipped overseas to Chinese smelters.
    Rubbles are worthless Russian currency. I believe you mean rubble, which was indeed cleared quickly. What else would you do with all of that material? it is unfortunate that we no longer have the capability to handle this task in house.

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    - Pictures taken after the collapse of the WTC showed that the core support steel columns appeared to have been flamed-cut at a perfect 45-degree angle.
    IF you actually investigate, you would know those "Flame Cuts" were to remove parts that were welded to columns to facilitate lifting during construction. They are removed when the column is in place. A very common technique.

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    - " All three buildings of the World Trade Center was destroyed by carefully planned, orchestrated and executed controlled demolition". Professor Lynn Margulis, Department of Geosciences, University of Massachusetts at Amherst.
    She was an Internationally renowned evolutionary biologist. She can make any statement she wants. Her credentials "Professor Lynn Margulis, Department of Geosciences, University of Massachusetts at Amherst" do not add any value to her opinion in this area.

    I read both sides, If you wish to provide evidence of your comments, I will consider it. If you will read a bit more with an open mind. This for example.

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    - A declassified U.S. Government plan from 1962, entitled "Operation Northwoods", consisted of: hijacking American airlines, attacking U.S.military bases, blowing up U.S.Naval ships, and shooting and terrorizing innocent Americans, all to be blamed on Cuba as a pretext for a U.S. invasion. This plan was rejected by President John F. Kennedy.
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    - A put option is a financial bet that a stock will fall and lose tremendous value. On the days just prior to 9/11, the put options placed on United Airlines were 285 times higher than average (Not 285%) and the put options placed on American Airlines were 60 times higher than average (Not 60%). United & American were the only airlines involved in 9/11.
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    - Cantor Fitzgerald Securities, the company that was handling the paper work for the gold to be delivered back to the Chinese "Global Collateral Accounts", was inside One World Trade Center on floors 101-105. All 658 of their employees were murdered on that day as the towers fell and the gold was not returned to the Chinese.
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    - Within 10 minutes of the second twin tower being hit in the World Trade Center CNN said Osama bin Laden had done it. That was a planned piece of disinformation by the real perpetrator
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    - BBC reported the collapse of (WTC building-7) 25 minutes before it happened. The BBC later said they were told by Reuters. Reuters is a Rothschild company.
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    - When Benjamin Netinyahu was asked about the 9/11 terrorist attacks he said, "It's good for Israel".
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    - the plane that hit the Pentagon, there were no bodies, no luggage, no wings, no fuselage, and no landing gears!
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    - After the collapse, pictures taken showed that building-6 core was completely missing while the exterior walls are still standing.
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    - The 9/11 attacks occurred in the largest and most dense Jewish infested area outside of Israel, New York City.
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    - There were no Arabic/ Islamic names on the passenger list released by United Airlines and American Airlines.
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    - Originally, the FBI claimed that the "alleged" plane that hit the Pentagon was flown by an experienced pilot from Saudi Arabia, but when they discovered that he was alive in Saudi Arabia, they switched to an inexperienced pilot who couldn't fly a Cessna.
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    -Five Israeli Mossad agents were arrested filming and celebrating WTC collapse. One of the 5 arrested Israelis told the officers,
    "We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems, the Palestinians are the problem!" The police captured them on George Washington Bridge with a van containing explosives. Police had also arrested additional Israelis driving vans full of explosives in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and New Hampshire, but the most unbelievable van they stopped had a mural painted on the side of it depicting a plane crashing into the Twine Towers!!
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    - Two hours advance warning of an attack on the WTC were provided via an instant messaging company in Israel.
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    - Just months before 9/11, Larry Silverstein took out an insurance plan that covered terrorism!! After 9/11 Silverstein
    (a Jewish name), was awarded $4.5 billion. Silverstein also sued United and American Airlines for $3.5 billion for their "negligence" in the 9/11 attacks.
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    - One day before the attacks, on 10 September 2001, US Defense Secretary 'Donald Rumsfeld' admitted to $2.3 trillion missing. The significance of choosing this time, one day before the attacks, is to allow the news to be buried the following day. The next day, the accounting department of the Pentagon was blown up and the mainstream media programming never mentioned it again.
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    - New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani admitted in a live interview with ABC's Peter Jennings on 9/11/2001, that he got advance warning that the South Tower was about to collapse in 10 - 15 minutes !!!
    (No steel building had ever collapsed from fire damage before in history. The only one who knows a building is about to collapse in 10 - 15 minutes is a Demolition Team!).
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    - "All the intelligence services of America and Europe know well that the disastrous attack had been planned and realized by the Mossad...in order to blame the Arabic countries and convince the Western powers to take part in Iraq and Afghanistan." Italian President, Francesco Cossiga on 911.
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    -Bin laden has denied committing the 9/11 shortly after the attacks. Any subsequent apparent admission come from forged video or audio tapes.
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    - "The FBI has NO hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11" FBI's Chief of Investigative Publicity, Rex Tomb.
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    - Israeli security company were in charge of port security at all three ports of alleged hijackings. Israel security company was also in charge of airport security when the shoe bomber, Richard Reid, allegedly boarded a plane with a shoe bomb.
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    - Nano Thermite was found in the dust at Ground Zero.
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    - Building-7 was not hit by a plane. Steel framed high rise building have NEVER totally collapsed from fire or structural damage. Larry Silverstein used the term "Pull it", and building-7 of WTC collapsed in 6.5 seconds at free fall acceleration.
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    - Dick Cheney was in command of NORAD on 9/11 while running war games "Stand down order still stand".
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    - Hundreds of fire fighters and witnesses testimonies to Molten Metal ignored by the Commission Report.
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    - Pilots never squawked the hijacking code
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    - Building-7 was still standing after the globalists' media CNN and BBC had announced its collapse. One BBC reporter announced the collapse while viewers could see the still-standing building right behind her in the video, and what is more astonishing is that, among the many buildings damaged in the area, the news agency predicted the exact building that could collapse!
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    - One week before September 11, 2001 the Zim Shipping Company broke its lease it had for 30 years and moved out of the World Trade Center. Zim is half-owned by the Israeli government. FBI agent, Michael Dick, who was investigating Israel spying before and after 9/11 and looking into the suspicious move, was removed from his duty by the head of the Justice Department's criminal division, Michael Chertoff (dual Israeli-American citizen).
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    - Cheney on Meet the Press: "Well, the evidence is pretty conclusive that the Iraqis have indeed harbored terrorists." Also claims 9/11 hijacker Mohammed Atta met with Iraqi spy in Prague, a claim he'll repeat long after CIA and Czechs disavow.
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    - When you have the biggest terrorist attack in history, do you quickly gather the steel scrap of the collapsed buildings and ship it overseas? Or do you keep it, at least some of it, in a museum for the future generations to remember?...Only the Jews are permitted to remember. and that's why they kept Auschwitz standing so they can milk Germany forever....And that's why they kept black pages in the 9/11 report, to milk the Saudis forever.
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    - Sen. Al Franken: One of the widely disseminated stories was that no Jews died in the collapse of the Trade Towers because they had received calls telling them not to go to work that day.
    To tell you the truth, I got the Jew call. I had an office in the Trade Center where I used to do most of my writing. The call came from former New York mayor Ed Koch. “Al,” he told me, “don’t go to work on the twenty-third day of Elul [September 11, 2001.].”
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    - On the 8 and 9 Sep. 2001, Whilst a team laid miles of new cable inside the WTC towers, all CCTV surveillance was OFF. Wirt D. Walker, cousin of George Bush was head of "Securacom", the security company responsible for the security of the Twin Towers from 2000-2003

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    Quote Originally Posted by mansworld View Post
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    - On the 8 and 9 Sep. 2001, Whilst a team laid miles of new cable inside the WTC towers, all CCTV surveillance was OFF. Wirt D. Walker, cousin of George Bush was head of "Securacom", the security company responsible for the security of the Twin Towers from 2000-2003
    JUST WOW!

    The time and energy spent on such crap boggles the mind.

    So this was??? Different steel, different wind patterns and a Peterbilt not a Mack.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/30/us/30collapse.html

    Stuff melts when heated.
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    unsubscribed to this thread, I am tired of reading conspiracy theory about the towers.
    If you don't understand engineering and Physics or have a background in REAL engineering (ie the years of actual training and education it takes) DON"T pretend to spout off facts about engineering and physics. Even Physicist cannot fully understand all the minuet details of engineered structures (which is a very large and complex system) without specific training.
    There is a lot going on, and it looks like magic to most people.

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    Saving American future generations from the Number One Killer of the American people "The US government", can never be a crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mansworld View Post
    Saving American future generations from the Number One Killer of the American people "The US government", can never be a crap.
    In defense of your assertions can you address the melting bridge in San Francisco please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_3000 View Post
    JUST WOW!

    The time and energy spent on such crap boggles the mind.

    So this was??? Different steel, different wind patterns and a Peterbilt not a Mack.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/30/us/30collapse.html

    Stuff melts when heated.
    Saving American future generations from the Number One Killer of the American people "The US government", can never be a crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mansworld View Post
    Saving American future generations from the Number One Killer of the American people "The US government", can never be a crap.
    Standing by for your response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_3000 View Post
    In defense of your assertions can you address the melting bridge in San Francisco please?
    That is for the "science fiction" film producer to address, not for the "science engineers" to address.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mansworld View Post
    That is for the "science fiction" film producer to address, not for the "science engineers" to address.
    A report about a truck crash and fire and the subsequent damage and the collapse of the steel structure is "science fiction"?

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