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    Highway built around a house in Guangzhou, China.




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    That person refused to sell his property at any price...

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    Quote Originally Posted by IntheGroove View Post
    That person refused to sell his property at any price...
    They're called "nail houses", and are fairly common in China. There are some seriously stubborn folks there. Not all refusals to sell are money related. Some stand on principle or simply to be a pimple on the bureaucratic ass. I don't remember the particulars, but the laws in China doesn't favor going straight to eminent domain as is common here in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sossol View Post
    They're called "nail houses", and are fairly common in China. There are some seriously stubborn folks there. Not all refusals to sell are money related. Some stand on principle or simply to be a pimple on the bureaucratic ass. I don't remember the particulars, but the laws in China doesn't favor going straight to imminent domain as is common here in the US.

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    What is "imminent domain"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyfoale View Post
    What is "imminent domain"?
    The short answer ,https://thewordcounter.com/imminent-vs-eminent/
    the better description is government theft, but there are times when the law is in interest of public safety.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminen..._United_States
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyfoale View Post
    What is "imminent domain"?
    Not sure but Eminent Domain is the right of a government or its agent to expropriate private property for public use, with payment of compensation. In other words if you beloved local government deem your property better serves as part of a shopping mall or government office, they can force you to sell it to them at "fair market value" which is basically whatever they choose to pay for it...
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    I questioned "imminent domain" because that was what sossol mentioned "the laws in China doesn't favor going straight to imminent domain as is common here in the US."

    I am well aware of the difference between imminent and eminent but I was unfamiliar with either the Eminent Domain or Imminent Domain terms. Eminent Domain would seem to be more used in the US, I would more likely expect to hear the term Compulsory Purchase. However, I am very familiar with the concept of govt theft having had land stolen for road widening when there was plenty of unused scrap land on the other side of the road. Compensation was derisory and I lost many trees amongst them some plum trees which produced the nicest plums that I have ever eaten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyfoale View Post
    I questioned "imminent domain" because that was what sossol mentioned "the laws in China doesn't favor going straight to imminent domain as is common here in the US."

    I am well aware of the difference between imminent and eminent but I was unfamiliar with either the Eminent Domain or Imminent Domain terms. Eminent Domain would seem to be more used in the US, I would more likely expect to hear the term Compulsory Purchase. However, I am very familiar with the concept of govt theft having had land stolen for road widening when there was plenty of unused scrap land on the other side of the road. Compensation was derisory and I lost many trees amongst them some plum trees which produced the nicest plums that I have ever eaten.
    tonyfoale, I was absolutely not questioning your understanding as I was confused as well. I was just building on your comment, also questioning the term.

    I would guess Imminent Domain would be a king soon to become ruler of new lands somewhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyfoale View Post
    I questioned "imminent domain" because that was what sossol mentioned "the laws in China doesn't favor going straight to imminent domain as is common here in the US."

    I am well aware of the difference between imminent and eminent but I was unfamiliar with either the Eminent Domain or Imminent Domain terms. Eminent Domain would seem to be more used in the US, I would more likely expect to hear the term Compulsory Purchase. However, I am very familiar with the concept of govt theft having had land stolen for road widening when there was plenty of unused scrap land on the other side of the road. Compensation was derisory and I lost many trees amongst them some plum trees which produced the nicest plums that I have ever eaten.
    Or the land get stolen by the government to build a road around some hysterically historic structure, or so goes the story I once read, about of how a farmer's property was cut in half by a later abandoned road. True or not I don't know. Anyway, supposedly there was this cabin or some other structure owned by the National historic society with a significant portion of land surrounding it right in direct line with where a proposed highway was to be built. The simplest thing would have been to bulldoze the cabin and build the highway straight but noooo! the government decided to take create a right of way right through a farmer's fields. In doing so it would have made it next to impossible for him to farm one side or the other. He refused to sell so the land was condemned and taken from him. Almost before the surveying was complete a storm demolished the structure I guess the planet didn't get the memo. Now any rational thinking person would have decided that since the structure was no longer an obstruction the highway planners would have made the road straight saving nearly a mile of construction distance and lots of money. The road was built through the farmer's property causing him to have to load his equipment and haul it several miles before being able to access the other half of his farm. A few years later the jog in the road was deemed dangerous so it was summarily straightened out through the land where the storm had demolished the hysterically historical structure but leaving the old road in place. No one can make an argument that many governments have rational thought processes, maybe in some aspects China does but as a whole I doubt it.
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    Farm on the Freeway by Jethro Tull

    Nine miles of two-strand topped with barbed wire
    Laid by the father for the son.
    Good shelter down there on the valley floor,
    Down by where the sweet stream run.

    Now they might give me compensation
    That's not what I'm chasing. I was a rich man before yesterday.
    Now all I have got is a cheque and a pickup truck.
    I left my farm on the freeway.

    They're busy building airports on the south side
    Silicon chip factory on the east.
    And the big road's pushing through along the valley floor.
    Hot machine pouring six lanes at the very least.
    They say they gave me compensation

    That's not what I'm chasing. I was a rich man before yesterday.
    Now all I have left is a broken-down pickup truck.
    Looks like my farm is a freeway.

    They forgot they told us what this old land was for.
    Grow two tons the acre, boy, between the stones.
    This was no Southfork, it was no Ponderosa.
    But it was the place that I called home.

    They say they gave me compensation
    That's not what I'm chasing. I was a rich man before yesterday.
    And what do I want with a million dollars and a pickup truck?
    When I left my farm under the freeway.

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