Hybrid truck recharges from overhead wires in Germany - GIF

[Floradawg]

I just ran the numbers through a couple of estimators and got a five-year payback for a Ford F150 King Ranch vs. a Ford F150 Lightning XLT Extended range based in the Phoenix, AZ, area (for power/fuel costs and tax rates). That includes financing, power/fuel costs, and maintenance costs, among others. As a benefit, EV owners get to use the HOV lanes on the freeways, which is a Godsend during rush hours, plus EVs contribute next to nothing to our horrid, smoggy air. I don't think EVs are for everyone, just like an F350 isn't for everyone, but they do have their place, and there's no stopping the transition from fossil fuels for automotive use to electric based systems. Besides, with all the uses we have for petroleum based products, from pharmaceuticals to AG chemicals to plastics, burning it for fuel will seem like a waste in years to come.

Where do you think the electricity to charge them comes from? Coal, oil, and natural gas would probably supply most of it.

[schuylergrace]

Where do you think the electricity to charge them comes from? Coal, oil, and natural gas would probably supply most of it.

Here, in Arizona, about half (46%) of our electricity is still generated by natural gas, but nuclear also is a major source (27%). Coal is fast dwindling, as coal fired plants and coal mines shut down, primarily because coal plants cost so much to operate and coal is an expensive and dirty fuel. Solar, in fact is outpacing coal now, and we generate a reasonable share from wind (fast expanding) and hydro.

In the U.S., as a whole, natural gas makes up about 43% of the supply, while coal still supplies about 15%, but that number is dropping quickly. Renewables are up to about 30%, while nuclear is around 10%. Natural gas is still being used because it's currently cheap and plentiful. Oil supplies only a fraction of a percent of all electricity production.

[Floradawg]

Here, in Arizona, about half (46%) of our electricity is still generated by natural gas, but nuclear also is a major source (27%). Coal is fast dwindling, as coal fired plants and coal mines shut down, primarily because coal plants cost so much to operate and coal is an expensive and dirty fuel. Solar, in fact is outpacing coal now, and we generate a reasonable share from wind (fast expanding) and hydro.

In the U.S., as a whole, natural gas makes up about 43% of the supply, while coal still supplies about 15%, but that number is dropping quickly. Renewables are up to about 30%, while nuclear is around 10%. Natural gas is still being used because it's currently cheap and plentiful. Oil supplies only a fraction of a percent of all electricity production.

True, but it is a stretch IMHO to say that EVs contribute next to nothing to our horrible smoggy air. Also, the production of them, especially the batteries, is very nasty to the environment. Yes, most of that is a world away but it still should not happen.

[Floradawg]

Here, in Arizona, about half (46%) of our electricity is still generated by natural gas, but nuclear also is a major source (27%). Coal is fast dwindling, as coal fired plants and coal mines shut down, primarily because coal plants cost so much to operate and coal is an expensive and dirty fuel. Solar, in fact is outpacing coal now, and we generate a reasonable share from wind (fast expanding) and hydro.

In the U.S., as a whole, natural gas makes up about 43% of the supply, while coal still supplies about 15%, but that number is dropping quickly. Renewables are up to about 30%, while nuclear is around 10%. Natural gas is still being used because it's currently cheap and plentiful. Oil supplies only a fraction of a percent of all electricity production.

I would like to visit Arizona. I have been to New Mexico and it was pretty cool. I will have to plan a trip there. There is beauty in all 50 states. I am so appreciative of being here. I took a road trip across Texas last year. It's really interesting how the terrain changes as you cross it. It's BIG! Everything's big in Texas. One thing I remember is on the back of a semi trailer on the bottom left was an arrow pointing left and it said "El Paso". On the bottom right was an arrow pointing right and it said "El Smasho".