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    I still have two sets of the same ladder jacks and a 24' plank from my billboard painting days. I used a 40' extension ladder with hooks on each section to seat on top of the boards. If the boards had no catwalk I used the 40' and a 32' extension ladder. I did use a pulley and rope on each end to haul the plank up up and down.

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    Good ladders, we prefer Little Giant for most things at work, the 'new' ground cue feature is especially useful. For DIY the unprotected from falls 'plank' might be acceptable, but for work here would be totally unacceptable without independent fall arrest.

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    with houses so close together the ladders had to be placed on the neighbor's property, if a worker falls which homeowner has to pay medico
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank S View Post
    with houses so close together the ladders had to be placed on the neighbor's property, if a worker falls which homeowner has to pay medico
    It's not the homeowners fault if a worker falls, it never is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_3000 View Post
    It's not the homeowners fault if a worker falls, it never is.
    .I don't mean to rag on this, but it has happened before to a guy I once knew.
    Explain that in the court when a worker happens to slip in a pet chew or your child's forgotten toy or trips over your garden hose while carrying your new windows. Sure his company's ins. is going to pay the worker's medico but at the same time the company's insurance company will try to recover their losses from the homeowner in any way they can. That is one of the reasons for having an umbrella policy attached to your homeowner's policy.
    In the case where the ladders are standing on 1 property while the work is being performed on another what is the guy's automatic sprinkler system turned on and the broken sprinkler head saturated the ground causing the ladder to slip who would be at fault there? So yes, there are possible scenarios where the homeowner could be found liable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank S View Post
    .I don't mean to rag on this, but it has happened before to a guy I once knew.
    Explain that in the court when a worker happens to slip in a pet chew or your child's forgotten toy or trips over your garden hose while carrying your new windows.
    could be found liable.
    The old canard....it happened to a friend of a friends cousin in laws sister's aunt.

    We arent talking about hazards left lying around in someone's yard or home, we are discussing a guy falling from a platform he brought to a worksite for his own use.

    THAT is NEVER the homeowners problem.

    Take my word for it (I had twenty two years in the insurance business before I moved on), I know an umbrella extension on a homeowners policy is cheap but it's still a waste of money and a magnet for frivolous claims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob_3000 View Post
    The .THAT is NEVER the homeowners problem. Take my word for it (I had twenty two years in the insurance business before I moved on), I know an umbrella extension on a homeowners policy is cheap but it's still a waste of money and a magnet for frivolous claims.
    On that note it seems we will have to agree to disagree on the whole subject. While we can agree in a perfect world the homeowner should not be subjected to shoulder any of the responsibilities of a worker taking a fall from a scaffold he or his company brought to the jobsite. And just about everyone knows that not all contractors are as fully insured as they might think they are or claim to be. Not all states even require small contractor companies to carry workmen's comp. if fewer that a certain number of employees or single individual contractors without employees. Not all work done on people's homes is even done by contractor companies in the first place but rather just handymen hired by the homeowners who at such time are the Defacto contractors themselves, who bare full responsibility for the actions and welfare of the worker, which brings up the problem of erecting a structure on, or using a neighboring property for any reason, sometimes as a homeowner their own insurance company will try by any means to avoid paying out injury claims, if there is any posibility of making another ins company or policy holder pay.
    In my 55+ years in the job life I have owned several small companies, at times multiples at the same time I've set up guys in their own contracting businesses held their businesses under my own umbrella policies paid workmen's ins. for them when they were getting started. I've even a few times gone to work as a wage slave or a consultant myself at times when my own company was between jobs or times were getting leaner than comfortable just so I could have enough income to keep a couple of my own employees on payroll or to meet other obligations.
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    Those used to be great. But I think that they were outlawed in Canada. To many idiots. I'll check one of the big box stores maybe they are back in. I'm remembering 30 plus years ago. I like the scaffold plank.

    Frank here you are supposed to have Workers Constipation. Yeah it fits when you think about it. You are also supposed to have fall arrest training which negates the insurance hence the Workers Constipation moniker.

    Mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwmkravchenko View Post
    Those used to be great. But I think that they were outlawed in Canada. To many idiots. I'll check one of the big box stores maybe they are back in. I'm remembering 30 plus years ago. I like the scaffold plank.

    Frank here you are supposed to have Workers Constipation. Yeah it fits when you think about it. You are also supposed to have fall arrest training which negates the insurance hence the Workers Constipation moniker.

    Mark
    Yes, and if the tag on your fall arrest gear becomes unreadable for whatever reason, it means the arrest lanyard is no longer serviceable. A worker falls, the lanyard functions properly but due to how the scaffold had to be set up major injury is caused by the fall arrest equipment workers constipation won't pickup the bill and the largest organized crime syndicate in the world called OSHA slaps the employer with a huge fine unless he happens to be on their buddy-buddy list then they go after the homeowners ins.
    All the more reason I have a huge umbrella policy attached to my home insurance
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