My son fully restored this old saw to "better than new" condition for me. I modified the base and made a lift mechanism borrowing ideas from several others.
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My son fully restored this old saw to "better than new" condition for me. I modified the base and made a lift mechanism borrowing ideas from several others.
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It was a pleasure restoring this old saw for you Dad.
Hope you get many years of use.
Another piece of American iron saved from the scrapper.
This is amazing and a nice restoration. Nice work Mikerichards1319 and congrats to a Dad (oldtimetexan) with a fine son! Interestingly I just acquired a matching pair of 1958 King Seeley/Craftsman drill press (bench) and 12" band saw. About dropped my jaw when I saw this post. The DP is a bit rough and the number plate is missing and been moded but built like a brick. The BS is almost mint, other than it has a MonkeyWards motor on it...Guy told me it was a hybrid! LOL
Would love to know more about your restoration Mike.
Thanks for Sharing this. ~PJ
P.S...I'm technically an oldtimetexan too from Amarillo...just been around a few other blocks and haven't been back in a while.
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I replaced the bearings in the motor and arbor. Cleaned everything up and painted while in pieces.
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Made the spring lock for the blade insert out of a screen door roller.
Ran out of room on the last post.
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I made the insert for the blade guard out of plexiglass. I used a piece of cardboard to make a template and transferred it to the plexiglass to cut out on the bandsaw. Then I used a heat gun to bend it over a piece of pipe to form the shape.
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Here is the front and back of Dad's saw.
Wow, Nice Job Mike. The acrylic guard looks Perfect and great idea on the restore. Motor and plate look terrific too, plus a good clean out I bet. Looks from the picture you have quite a few older Craftsman tools...Wood Lathe and the Bandsaw? or Scroll saw? (deep throat). And is that a Clausing I see in the background? Thanks Very much for sharing...The Passion really Shows!
I found out today that I might be wrong about the Matching Pair after talking to who I got them from and their provenance. Turned out he had the number plate. The DP is a 103.23130 but haven't figured the actual date yet so it could be from 48'-55' and the band saw is a 103.24280 which appears to be around March of 52'. Here are a couple of pics. Lots of work yet.
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:hattip: ~PJ
Thanks PJ.
Yes I do have some old Craftsman items.
Drillpress and Bandsaw like yours, wood lathe, belt/disk sander and 24 inch Scroll saw.
in the background is actually a Sheldon WM-56-P lathe.
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Next to that is a Van Norman 22M milling machine.
The 22M was my latest restoration.
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There is nothing like old iron. big, small, stationary, or mobile. just about anything that was built in an era when plastic was only used as a necessity rates high with me and anyone who demonstrates the affection to preserve it either in its intended or manufactured form, or makes mods which improve it's functionality without destroying it, is a notch above others as well
Wow Mike those are beautiful restorations and you are definitely passionate to take on the VN 22M, beast. Oh My!! Hope you have the concrete under it! Do you have the horizontal stuff for it? Couldn't find much info on the 22M but assume its 3x autofeed based on what I can see but the table and lift are beefier than the others I saw. Honestly I'm just a novice to some of this older industrial stuff, but love it, especially bringing them back to life for another long run!
The Sheldon 13" has that look of Built to last and precision...Nice piece of Kit!! Looks to be a later variety (50's+)? My brother picked up a 43', 13"x 6' SB a while back in pretty good shape with lots of extras...on a heck of a deal.
That 24" Scroll is a beast also and by the engine turning on the shield it looks to be a King Seeley too? It never ceases to amaze me what Sears Roebuck - Craftsman products did for the home shop guys for all these years.
Thanks for sharing your passion here and look forward to More posts...a bunch more from you and your dad! Much appreciated.
~PJ
Salutes to Mr.Mikerichards1319 .
Not just dynamite; C5! My observation is excellent photo documentation detailing high HMT.net grade craftsmanship. Proof of recent discussions on brief text; descriptive titling, augmenting great pix. The saw is showroom quality; but not 'gussied up'. All perfectly useful attention to daily use, not a auto or bike equivalent 'trailer queen'. And clean surfaces are far easier to maintain!
And along with Frank S, can't be too much iron. I'd hate to estimate 'our' iron quantity, trust us, actual multiple tons, not just as in 'lots'. Plastic is good; for knobs. But to me the saw is pale against the mill, I know Van Normans'. Among the best made machinery ever.
Thanks all for the Kudos on these restorations! This all started when I was looking for power tools for my shop. Everything out there was over priced and lacking on quality. I got turned on to Craigslist one day and then the addiction began. I live in the Northeast and it seems like there is an unlimited supply of old machinery availible for good prices in this area. 1 by 1 I started building a colection of vintage power tools for the shop. I got a lot of peices for my Dad as well. Restoring the tablesaw for my Dad was joy to do. I was so excited to give this one to Dad! Restoring the Van Norman was a whole different animal. Once I got it apart I looked at it for about 6 months wondering what I got myself into and then another year of restoration. It was in rough shape when i got it. It was buried in someones garage for about 30 years. This machine came with both abor supports, the outer overarm brace, boring and drilling attachment, 10 inch power driven dividing head with the box filled with gears and dividing plates and the tail stock, L-W Toledo 6 1/2 inch swivel vise, about 40 collets, 6 arbors, 3 shell mill holders, endmill holder and all the original brochures and manuals. For the price I couldn't say no. All this old machinery was built to last, and to me, are an ode to the pride in workmanship by the American working class that built this country. I am proud to be able to keep some of these out of the scrap yards and back to working condition.
I'd say that makes him one of us, the HMT.net collective. Van Norman built an array of toolroom and limited production equipment; best known for engine building and other automotive machines. There would be no surprise that equal replacements of machine and tooling. New and of course no such thing thanks to offshoring; the Van Norman would exceed 100 grand.
Tooling has value beyond machine tools as there is some interchange. Sometimes properly identifying them is a problem, such as the infinite variety of toolholders and collets. Machine tools are worthless without means to operate as intended. I base this on search for a K&T "D" die mill, 50g in the mid 1980's, only available as rebuild on YOUR core!
Yep he has been assimilated. One thing about the HMT.net collective is there is almost never any resistance once someone has seen, felt or heard how gratifying it becomes to make, re purpose or rebuild tools they have, need or just want.
I've been trying to talk a guy out of an old Buffalo flat belt drill press for years. it is just laying on the ground with weeds growing over it doing nothing but deteriorating with each passing season. The gentleman is in his late 80's and poor health I know for a stone cold fact that his sons are planning on scraping everything he has once he passes so they can bull doze his house barns and shop to build a multi family condo. His oldest son has been telling him that he should either give or sell me anything that I want while he is still alive, because he knows his 4 brothers are just vindictive enough to make sure that no one get's the stuff before it is busted up for scrap.
Sad really but that is the way some folks minds work when they are handed everything through out their lives and never had to labor for anything.
Amen; make, mend, re-purpose and rebuild is one generation's function to fill true need or simple wants. Another, exactly as described, merely awakes to any sort of property. If the trait isn't absorbed, can't recognize either of those as a gift. The insult is on them, feeding mindless "it's MINE" greed, waste, landfills, crappy replacements [more correctly poor substitutes] completely ignorant of potential in the secondary market.Quote:
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And the condo will likely be all spec grade materials to boot. Showy on the surface, everything pared to minimum underneath.
Far too many gifts aren't rewards or honorary, just habit.
Those old camelback drill presses are great. I have an AHS variable speed drillpress that is converted to v belt drive. It is 100 years old and still works great. I have since moved the motor below inside the base. One day I plan on doing a resto on this one too.
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Its sad to hear about that Buffalo drillpress laying to waste.
On a lighter note coincidentally Bob just called me a few minutes ago to tell me that there is about 20,000 lbs of pipe tubing and sheet metal at his dad's place that belongs to him and that if I want that stuff I need to come get it. I asked him about the buffalo, he said that he has a feeling that now that his dad is becoming a lot more amenable to let a few things go. Even though we are in the midst of our relocation as soon as Bob gets back in town and we head back to town as well he and I are going to go and load up the stuff he is giving me. I'd like to buy the Jubilee Ford tractor with the Sherman transmission from his dad as well but I doubt that will ever happen, one of the other brothers knows what those old things are worth when restored. OH well maybe I can find a busted up Massey Ferguson 65 or an M farmall to restore someday.
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Thanks Mikerichards1319! We've added your Table Saw Motor Restoration to our Table Saws category,
as well as to your builder page: Mikerichards1319's Homemade Tools. Your receipt:
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Thanks Mikerichards1319! We've added your Blade Insert Spring Lock to our Table Saws category,
as well as to your builder page: Mikerichards1319's Homemade Tools. Your receipt:
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