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    Roofers working during snowstorm - GIF

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    keep working boys a little snow is not going to kill you. The first one who falls off the roof has to buy the beer.
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    That job does not pay enough to take those risks or the wear and tear on your body on the best of days....unless you're the El Jefe.
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    Around here you have to pay worker's compensation rates per hour worked. Your rate is based on your industry and your safety history. Most industries are $2-$5 per hour. Roofer's base rate is over $14. There is a reason for this.

    Also, I have no idea how roofing companies make money having to pay the government $14 for every hour worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nova_robotics View Post
    Around here you have to pay worker's compensation rates per hour worked. Your rate is based on your industry and your safety history. Most industries are $2-$5 per hour. Roofer's base rate is over $14. There is a reason for this.

    Also, I have no idea how roofing companies make money having to pay the government $14 for every hour worked.
    When you pay cash, there's no hours to report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdurand View Post
    When you pay cash, there's no hours to report.
    This is true. Most of the roofers I've seen are younger guys just starting out, but some of the older ones look like meth grew legs and picked up a bundle of shingles. They probably wouldn't know what to do with a paycheck if you handed them one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nova_robotics View Post
    Around here you have to pay worker's compensation rates per hour worked. Your rate is based on your industry and your safety history. Most industries are $2-$5 per hour. Roofer's base rate is over $14. There is a reason for this.

    Also, I have no idea how roofing companies make money having to pay the government $14 for every hour worked.
    You're not supposed to look at it as giving the government money in the form of insurance rates although that is largely where a lot of the monies of the premiums are dispersed, between the government the corporate execs and stockholders. The premiums are supposed to be invested to create large pools of funding to be paid out in the event of accidents. The government's involvement in anything and everything is supposed to be secret in order to perpetuate the wealth of the ruling elite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank S View Post
    You're not supposed to look at it as giving the government money in the form of insurance rates although that is largely where a lot of the monies of the premiums are dispersed, between the government the corporate execs and stockholders. The premiums are supposed to be invested to create large pools of funding to be paid out in the event of accidents. The government's involvement in anything and everything is supposed to be secret in order to perpetuate the wealth of the ruling elite.
    The government's involvement in anything and everything also often is disastrous.
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    The government doesn't get that money, the insurance company does. Here in California, Workers Comp has more scam payouts with the judge's approval than legitimate claims. Or did when my contractors' license was active.
    I would NEVER have taken on a job like that, but that's just me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnginePaul View Post
    The government doesn't get that money, the insurance company does. Here in California, Workers Comp has more scam payouts with the judge's approval than legitimate claims. Or did when my contractors' license was active.
    I would NEVER have taken on a job like that, but that's just me.
    In our state the "insurance company" IS the government. Oh they have a cutesie name and like the illusionist on stage uses mis-direction to confuse the public, they are in fact a full blown government agency. Government phone numbers, government email addresses, government paychecks and benefits. The public would have balked at higher taxes to hand out "benefits" to the claimants so the politicians came up with a way to buy votes without jacking up taxes. They collect "insurance premiums" from businesses by force but don't call it a tax. And those on the receiving end out number those on the paying end. Then they wonder why they don't make more money.....

    BTW, I would fire any contractor that attempted to put shingles up in those temps. Good way to damage the shingle and too cold to properly "glue" down before the hard spring winds tear them off the roof. Sure wish you could buy locking tab shingles as mine are more than 30 years old and starting to show their age. Not at all excited about replacing them with an inferior product. Sigh....
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