Ahhh, a great burden lifted from my funny-bone. Nothing I can create enhances this one any further.Quote:
Originally Posted by PJs
So far....
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Ahhh, a great burden lifted from my funny-bone. Nothing I can create enhances this one any further.Quote:
Originally Posted by PJs
So far....
With enthusiasm, for the dozens of viewers. There's work, and then....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1jiEZ1s5f8
Great find and so trueQuote:
Originally Posted by Toolmaker51
Man that was Great TM51...Laughed, winced, ducked and tasted something bad and had one abnormally aspirated espresso. A well lived 5 minutes...Excellent!
So with approval of at least two constituents, I offer in direct connection to that previous with Mr. Rowe.
Epic, I guarantee you'll applaud.
Mike Rowe on value of work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRVdiHu1VCc
yeah Trump might be a businessman, maybe have a clue. What do you think our man Mike Rowe could do?
Mike Rowe a Baltimore Opera singer turned realist. I watched every episode of his series dirty jobs often thinking to myself no way a professional singer and actor is actually digging in and doing theses things. Then after a few seasons I noticed the realism of the work he was filming It was kind of a you just can't make this stuff up because I had done some of the things he was doing in the segments.Quote:
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When in high school every year kids would try their best to win a coveted spot at the Ft. Worth fat Stock show sponsored by the FFA one year I raised a bull calf prospects were really looking good that my calf might get to go to the stock show I had shown it at the county fair and won a blue ribbon but my calf didn't make the cut, no big surprise there was a lot of competition and the calf and I didn't make it that's life he grew into a fine bull anyway and we managed to get a lot of calves from our heifers he serviced.
One of my female friends and her yew and newborn lambs did make it. and she castrated the lambs while at the stock show the same way Mike Rowe had to do. After wards at school someone started calling her bite em off Susie He was a townie and didn't understand and wouldn't have understood no matter what. One day Susan got tired of his stupidity and told him that she was more than willing to demonstrate the process in front of the class and explain the reason this was necessary that the lamb felt very little pain and, if he would be so kind as to volunteer she would prove it to him.
Tommy turned as pale as 2% milk then said no thanks
I knew he was philosophical but didn't know how articulate he was. Old Ted and must have missed it along the line or had a CRS moment. Seen a fair amount of his stuff, but this was excellent. Thanks TM51, this was really well said on so many levels.
re Frank S & PJs, including other attendees of this particular thread. I too, appreciate his presentations and KNEW Mr. Rowe's comments fit here, hand-lapped at finest measurable clearances.
I'm pleased, with all sincerity; to contribute, and respond, participating in an exchange representing untold thousands of hours (years?)worth of experience. It's remarkable totally different backgrounds can align into similar perspectives. The value stretches from backgrounds to viewpoints like a spider's web, suspended from otherwise unconnected Cartesian positions.
When first initiating Shop Truths, Phrases, Tales; and Outright Lies, I knew it'd be no stretch to create, recall, or stumble across suitable reinforcement illustrating the facet, what I'm certain ties us together. Yet the variety surprises me, never had guessed so many find this kind of collection appeal is rather universal.
Dead serious or funny, which only appear divergent on the surface, aren't. No question one exists, bolstered by the other. Opposites attract.
I especially liked his commentary about the time when he was doing the segment on the deadliest catch. when he asked the Captain OSHA and the captain's reply was osha OCEAN. then the clarification of his job was not to keep them safe but to make them rich. Meaning to me at least that by enlarge safety practices ultimately rest on the shoulders of those actually doing the job. Which also brings to mind something a Drill instructor once said. This hat I am wearing on my head does not mean that I am here to hold your hand or to kiss your skint knees and say soothing words to make it all better My job is to train you with the skills I have learned so you don't skin your knees, and to toughen you up so you can ignore the little scrapes you will get along the way . it is up to you not to fall down in the first place. I'm not your mother consider me as that old Uncle who is only going to be around for a while then leave.
So there was always some mouth in the platoon who would shout out a comment like SO WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING DRILL Sgt? The answer was usually just as soon as you can whip my expletive. PLATOOOONN ATEN' ---SHOOON, NOW drop and give me 50
Yup always someone wise guy, so rewarding for all, with the requisite 'gimme 50'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank S
I knew right off being a joker would have to wait... making up ever since!
I had also heard from my dad to never volunteer for anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toolmaker51
One very cold dreary almost raining morning in Basic the 1st Sgt addressed the company of 4 platoons. Something that was unusual since usually the senior DI did this.
the 1st SGT asked if anyone could drive a truck. No one replied at first. then a buddy of mine from high school spoke up and pointed to me then said he can 1st SGT. I've seen him drive his grand father's Mack to school a couple of times.
Well this got me singled out and called out. too late to play dumb I thought my bud has just volunteered me for pushing a wheel barrow I thought.
So I was asked if it were true. I answered in the affirmative then I was ordered up front. Top asked if I had a driver's license. So I pulled out my wallet and handed him my chauffeur's license.
Well lookie here we have a guy who can drive anything on wheels. DO You really know how to drive a truck? give me some of your back ground. So I explained a few of the things I had driven and how long I had known how to drive.
Then he told me to go to the orderly room and get a pass then catch the shuttle buss to South Fort and go to the transportation motor pool and have my self checked out. and to return to the Mass hall with a commercial 5 ton cargo truck.
A couple hours later I backed a F700 Ford up to the back of the Mess Hall. I spent the next 6 weeks driving it when ever the mess hall was required to accompany the company on a march or bivouack. But that was not without its consequences I was expected to be super numeracy in every thing My DI hated me because I was exempted from marching in most of our marches.
It was good for something though because when I went to my AIT and subsequent permanent duty stations I already had a DD348 with a 2 page long string of endorsements from the TMP.
This post is a work in progress. It fits nicely within parameters, described by title "Shop Truths, Phrases, Tales; and Outright Lies", and reinforced by comments of it's various contributors.
So, first the setup:
I don't have a particular attraction to cable TV "How It's Made". Always disappointed that how it's made turns out more to be "How It's Assembled". I'm sure a large audience more interested in the real tooling behind "How It's Made" items. Applies equally to one-off customs or mass produced. But tonight's feature was US Navy Littoral Combat Vessels...Yeah, I'm an old Navy guy, yet the interest wasn't locked in by the ships. Presentation illustrated importance of aluminum, to commercial aircraft. The vessel concept success needs reduced draft and other weight savings.
Well, the aluminum was highlighted by a very special plane Douglas DC-3 Flagship St. Louis NC21745. I swear, photo of that plane caused me to choke up, and welling in my eyes. Immediately. And my next reaction, that aircraft was born and built without computers, CAD drawings, online catalogs and many of the other 'requirements' of today. There are examples still flying today, some more than eighty years old.
https://dc3dakotahistory.org/dc3-dak...ican-airlines/
Later in same show, they followed design and construction of a electric motored hotwalker for horses.
That 'designer' started right off in CAD...a merry-go-round for horses.
I haven't seen the episode in question but as far as walkers for horses I was building horse walkers out of old truck or car rear ends over 50 years ago no cad needed just weld a support frame together to hold the rear end vertical pull the back cover off and weld the spider gears for a positive drive add an old 4 speed manual transmission put a 14" diameter pulley on the input shaft to a 2" pulley on a jack shaft with a 12" pulley on the other end drive that with a 1/3 to 1/2 Hp electric motor with a 2" pulley. Mount 4 to 6 20 ft long pipes on a wheel mounted on the top axle tie the reigns of a hackamore halter to the ends of the pipe to lead the horses. Put the transmission in low gear and switch on the motor. it would walk the horse at a nice leisurely pace to speed them up a little just change the gears High gear would be a fast trot but too fast for the 40 ft diameter of the merry go round.
A variation of this was to not weld the spider gears but to hook up a brake line to the brakes on the bottom axle bury the line and run it several feet outside the walking path then with a master cylinder you could control the amount of friction holding the drum disk brakes hadn't come out then the harder the brake peddle was mashed the faster the walker made the horses walk you didn't need the transmission but you did need another jack shaft to get the reduction gearing and the brakes would wear out about every 2 or 3 months of constant use One advantage of using the brakes was if you let all of the pressure off the horses could stop the walker while the motor was still running. you could add a 2nd master cylinder to operate the brakes in the top axle for emergency stop.
If they want to do a how it's made segment come talk to me I can build and show them how things could be and were made long before we had computers.
Nice couple of rabbit holes, TM51! The DC3 article was dear to my heart as my uncle worked for them in Long Beach for a Long time...35-40 years and I've been on one flight in one at an air show and in many of them at air shows...does kind of make you well up. I remember the smell...a real olfactory experience I got back when I read the article.
Yup, we've come a long way since pencil and velum and made leaps and bounds with every step. If you want a mind rattling rabbit hole take a look at software for designing ASIC chips and what they are capable of doing with them. And yet every idea starts in the head and sometimes built on the fly and last just as long, or Longer (think pyramids or Parthenon).
The show is Ok for a lunch time recess to me but they don't say much, only light a candle once in a while.
PJ
Original text says it all;
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Not once; ever seen proper recognition in anyone's place of employment. This would be nice to see, walking in every morning.
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Some of us imagine how we got 'here'.
Better yet, to recall how you started.
Improving on that, knowing where you want to end up. . .
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AMA Motorcycle Museum Hall of Fame | Burt Munro
Timing official, remarking how Burt pulls away already at 90mph "when you opened her up in top gear, you sure left us in the dust. . ."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4giqUrQOwc
That video clip was from the movie worlds' fastest Indian Staring Anthony Hopkins as Burt Munro. But the movie surprisingly follows his life long dream pretty well even down to the Officials nearly banning him from making a run our of safety and technical concerns.
Indian Motorcycles even commissioned to have a one off replica of the famous Indian Scout the builder a guy in Florida fabed the bike for the company.
Burt cast his own pistons and made all of the other parts to create his dream by hand using scrap materials from other things.
Hats off to Mr. Munro a true legend in the DIY world.
In a roundabout [sort of slant drilling into a rabbit hole] search, I found a comment on this youtube video. Appears 'we' are on the same page.
But this video will be enjoyed by any who feel "How It's Made" hardly tells the story. It's 29 minutes of cast iron porn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQaAKUAzK0w
BTW, the best comment is "Who needs industry when you can have call centres!" closely illustrates observations in a large percentage of responses to the video. The lamentations sound particularly British.
Pleases me no end; believing a community exists that Quality, good Design, carefully specified Materials, and proper Fitting justify Cost; which show in subsequent reselling, willingly pay extra for the honor.
Contractors make things so difficult, like keeping schedules, sticking to job quotes. . .DIY is the way to go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40uCoIgxPC0
Well that was 9 minutes of entertainment. Oh you actually thought I would sit through an obvious spoof in regular time :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Toolmaker51
Woa I need a whole pack of cigarettes after watching that video.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toolmaker51
OK bit late in the conversation but with reference to #245 from Toolmaker51 on the Dirty Jobs dude.
In the clip he made a comment regarding Safety First.
I had a very nasty experience the other day which left me reeling with anger and spite for the HSE.
I was putting on a pair of work gloves and got a metal spelk in my hand from the inside of the glove, had i decided not to wear safety gear i would not have injured myself. Thanks to the clip i have now decided to study the wisdom of Aristotle and Plato etc. Safety third makes a lot of sense to me.
Cholchester Lathe clip.
chap casting lathe parts with molten metal - No gloves
MeJasonT, we conversed frequently, being clearly of like mind. I doubt Mike Rowe's show aired in Europe; but he is all over youtube. He can expound virtue of industry just as quickly jump into muck; and respect those equally. There's really nothing like him. His background is so varied, he can seemingly present facets of 100's of topics without notice. Sure, televised material is edited, but he does the same thing live.
Best thing about Mr. Rowe, is what we do not like; he won't participate in presidential elections. What a shame. THAT would be a candidate.
My guess on 'spelk' was off. I like to investigate terms, this being HMT.net we [in the middle] are bombarded on 4 sides by all kinds of language, sayings and dialect. I enjoy it guys, keep it coming! This time a webpage detailed the change in English across Britain. quick paste of result;
Shiver – Once common in Norfolk and Lincolnshire but now replaced with splinter
Sliver – Used in Sussex, Cambridgeshire and Kent but now replaced with splinter
Speel – A regional word used for splinter found Lancashire and Carlisle but now no longer used
Spell – The middle English for splinter, it was still being used across the North of England in the 1950s but has now vanished
Spile – Used instead of splinter in Blackburn and Bolton but now replaced
Spill – Seen in just a few places on the welsh border in the 1950s but now totally vanished
Spool – Used by people in Huddersfield in the 1950s but now replaced by spliter
Rather than to further hijack another thread I think this post is more fitting here.
It is a story of my inflamed gallbladder when I was about 19 years old. I was stationed at the 52nd MP Battalion at FT. Sam Houston. I was working in the Motor Pool under the guise of being a mechanic. Well the word mechanic was probably true. I had even done and early reenlistment to get the assignment. Mostly because I had grown weary of constantly attending one advanced training course after another and wanted a break. I felt that nearly 2 solid years of continuous never ending training courses was enough.
Things were going along smoothly in the motor pool we had only 1 tactical vehicle several sedans 3 motorcycles and of course the Provost Marshal a bird col. had his personal helicopter and early Korean war vintage bell 47D1 Which hadn't been flown in 10 years, but that would be another story.
One night while on night dispatch duty I suddenly was struck with a severe stomach pain or so I thought. I called the PMO and requested a patrol to swing by the motor pool. By the time a unit arrived I was doubled up on the floor in pain. One of them helped me to the sedan while the other stayed at the motor pool until a relief dispatcher could arrive. Code to Brook Army Medical center emergency room took less than 2 minutes, but the pain was subsiding by the time we arrived so I walked in on my own and the Staff sgt left to resume his patrol. Short story long, long story short I spent the night there under observation and endured an endless amount of testing and prodding needles stuck in my arms supplied body fluids under went x rays with only moderate regard for possible sterility protection must have been enough 2nd child born 3 years later.
Next morning released, placed on a bland potato soup type diet. On the mostly liquid diet for a week taking their meds I think were nothing but placebo but no proof. Pain not going away just barely tolerable enough to function in a highly limited duty level. Working days at the motor pool since the motor sgt and a couple others were there so not working alone incase another spasm. A call comes in from the PMO MTR sgt. tells me to report to the Provost Marshal post haste, no explanation. GO in and report as ordered the Col says you can drop that Specialist four crap Mister S. you forget I've seen your 201. This just arrived, tapping a folder on his desk, before I send it to the company commander I wanted to know if you are up for what is inside given your gall bladder incident last week. Oh be at ease and have a seat.
I'm up for it Sir.
How do you know you don't even know what is in the folder?
Unless I miss my guess it will be orders to some special TDY training course as per usual with the plans the Army has for me for what ever reason.
OK so you are suddenly clairvoyant are you?
No Sir just simple deduction What else would a folder specifically addressed to me be doing on your desk and not on the company commander's desk be about, if it weren't something that requires your recommendation as well as approval before it is forwarded to the company clerk or the 1st sgt.
Just then he got a phone call and had to dismiss me saying he would forward the folder to the company clerk for me to get my kit in order and pack my gear.
I Still didn't know what was in the folder or where I was being sent but I knew where ever it was I didn't need a pain in the lower gut stopping me so I rode the Motorcycle back to the motor pool but stopped along the way where a gut truck was selling snacks I bought a dozen jalapeno peppers a bag of chips and a canned coke. KILL or Cure was my thinking.
I've never had another pain or spasm in my abdomen in all of these years and absolutely consider the hotter the pepper the more it does for your body to prevent or possibly even cure gastrointestinal problems. I went TDY about 2 weeks later for 3 months To Aberdeen Proving grounds Md. and about a year later was sent to Germany where I remained for over 3 years but before going there I must have gone TDY 2 dozen times sometimes as few as 3 days some times a couple of weeks. all of these were very long flights of 6 to 14 hours once over 18 hours but we won't disclose those destinations publicly.
The above story is true only the wording of the conversations may have altered over the years
Those skills were asked of "Cemetery attendants" and grave digger had also needed ability to use a post hole shovel and with C class (MR or HR) truck licence an advantage and open excavator licence also an advantage. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Toolmaker51
or expose the whole mess!
as seen by Todd Snider/ Jenni Finlay
Statistician's Blues
They say 3 percent of the people use 5 to 6 percent of their brain
97 percent use 3 percent and the rest goes down the drain
I'll never know which one I am but I'll bet you my last dime
99 percent think we're 3 percent 100 percent of the time.
64 percent of all the world's statistics are made up right there on the spot
82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not
I don't know what you believe but I do know there's no doubt
I need another double shot of something 90 proof, I got too much to think about.
Too much to think about
Too much to figure out
Stuck between hope and doubt
It's too much to think about.
They say 92 percent of everything you learned in school was just ******** you'll never need
84 percent of everything you got you bought to satisfy your greed
Because 90 percent of the world's population links possessions to success
Even though 80 percent of the wealthiest 1 percent of the population drinks to an alarming excess
More money, more stress.
It's too much to think about
Too much to figure out
Stuck between hope and doubt
It's too much to think about, pick it now.
84 percent of all statisticians truly hate their jobs
They say the average bank robber lives within say about 20 miles of the bank that he robs
There's this little bank not far from here I've been watching now a while
Lately all I can think abouts how bad I wanna go out in style.
And it's too much to think about
It's too much to figure out
Stuck between hope and doubt
It's too much to think about, that's right
It's too much to think about, amen
It's too much to think about, mm-mm.
[Lyrics from: https:/lyrics.az/todd-snider/near-truths-and-hotel-rooms/statisticians-blues.html]
The perfect world.
At 20 you know everything and really do.
At 30 you have everything and really do
At 40 you've done everything and actually have.
At 50 you've finally figured out you really didn't know everything at 20
At 60 you've paid off everything you had at 30
At 70 you wonder why you did everything in the first place
At 80 you reminisce at all you knew all the things you had and everything you have done
At 90 you wonder if you ever knew anything had anything or did anything
At 100 none of it matters anymore you can't remember anything you don't have anything and you can't do anything someone does all of that for you and you wonder what 110 will be like
I've stolen my previous offer about the Colchester Lathe Plant.
This time it's how every 55 minutes, over a million components exit the Ford Willow Run Plant as a Consolidated-Vultee B-24 Liberator. So most of the post remains true. And as I continue wandering for such treasures, they'll find their way here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2zukteYbGQQuote:
Originally Posted by Toolmaker51
Awful damn sure....
Not any document I've written contained 'Accounts Receivable', 'Payable', let alone references to holding other rubber stamp wielding occupations. So when a "HR Manager" initiates a conversation to fill such a position, my benevolent demeanor switches to All Hands: General Quarters!
Typical, Saturday 0941, new junk mail. Contacts redacted for sake of I'm not sure why, formatting reduced to acceptable size.
Stand By to Repel Boarders!
From: Kacper Xxx Xxxxx <xxxxx@uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2019 9:53 AM
To: 'AAL'
Cc: info@msn.com
Subject: RED
Can you handle this position account receivables agent for Lee Metal Group, its customers/client in Canada or USA.
Regards,
HR Manager
re: RED [lol it's FRED]
You, an HR Manager?
Really? Or just bought a graduate certificate from Dollar General, maybe .99¢ Store...?
My resume contains absolutely nothing that predicates such would be of interest. Feeble probes indicate skills limited to stealing contact information, definitely not screening viable candidates.
Certainly not effective interpretation of the sort of documents mentioned above.
[Toolmaker51]
There for quite awhile, I'd get propositions to proofread and multiply impact of my resume, with a $300+ fee of course. Always the same pitch, "Recruiters and HR professionals only give resumes attention a matter of seconds" before decision to retain or trash.
That suits me fine. Those who know what they are looking at have told me, it's the best resume they've ever read. No hype or wordiness, only details that can be confirmed. Liked visualizing putting 300 in the bank every time I heard that.
I'm impressed with your interest and dedication.Quote:
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My guess on 'spelk' was off. I like to investigate terms, this being HMT.net we [in the middle
I read with interest the web finds especially the Carlisle one (some 4 miles from my house).
I cant believe spelk is non existent, my partner is from Liverpool (Lancashire) and she uses the word spelk.
Interestingly Speel is to spin a yarn or ditty (talk crap basically) and spool is a bobbin used in mills for fabric production again Lancashire, Yorkshire, Derby and generally the midlands of UK where the Victorian factories made cotton fabric etc. Spell is one i've heard but not used very much - we call little pieces of sea glass found on a beach spells which has two sources a word used by persons in Derby perhaps for a splinter and connotations of witchcraft - The origin being the friend from Derby we were beach combing with when we decided to adopt her word for sea glass. Sea glass being the very small smooth washed pieces of coloured glass found between the high and low water (tide) marks.
I have come across a few weird sayings in my time involving local dialects. One guy came out with (tin tin tin) as in - It ain't in the tin cant remember the origin off hand, think it was welsh? we have a saying in Cumbria "warrist" for what is it. Like you dialects fascinate me however I have so much other stuff to learn and make its not very high on my list of things to do. We have had Mike Rowe's programs televised over here and the man is a genius, our free view television service has at least 5 US channels transmitting so thankfully we do get to watch some good tv occasionally instead of BBC period dramas (period being the the perfect word to describe some of it - or menstruation if you wish to use a non local dialect slang description). Otherwise known as watching paint dry.
I watched one of Mike's shows where he went into a sewer filtration system to unblock some pumps, it handled all the sewerage for one of your major cities. The item he removed if i remember was the skull of a horse. all this diving 20+ feet fully kitted as a diver in zero vis. Those guys deserve their money, in fact probably more.
We are getting a TV series starting on Tuesday regarding the factories that built the war. I think the first one is of a factory that built US bombers - i get the impression it will make a lot of reference to Henry Fords production lines/methods. The line on the advert was that a plane left the production line every 3 hours? Not watched it yet so trusting my old grey matter hard drive to remember the advert - um challenging.
While we are on the subject of English words and sayings
have a look at this Pare of the reason why so many of us are misunderstood is our words have too many meanings depending on how they are pronounced but pronunciation is difficult to portray in type. Many words in other languages have gender assignments to them depending on how they are vocalized or accented as they are spoken as well
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I incorrectly had the view as to why we call machines, ships etc "she" based on French having its language constructed on gender. Guess what, I was wrong again.
Some of the objects turned out to be male. The the origin of our language coming from Latin imposed upon us by Constantine and the catholic churches doctoring only to be written off by Henry VIII in his desire to rid himself and the England of Catholics with the language going back to Olde English ( basically a mix of local dialects, Paganism and common tongue).
Its as difficult for us to learn the European languages as it is for them to learn English.
(Before any Scots get offended, The Country as a whole was globally known as England long before the British isles became re branded as the United Kingdom. so i use the term English to encompass us all, as it is politically correct - same as i use the word man to indicate spices and not to be sexist so get back in your box Mary).
If you have ever converted English in to a foreign language in google and then translate it back you get the impression that the subject of your conversation has been lost somehow. Something on the grounds of I milked the cow where the term milked perhaps has another meaning or gets lost in translation resulting in you doing harm to the poor creature instead. made up but you get my point. Those DIY instructions for self build furniture from Chinese to English are an absolute classic. Translated from English to Chinese and then back to English how may levels or error can be imported into those instructions.
The internet has provided us with a wonderful opportunity to learn languages, i myself can now understand a few words of German, French and even Russian.
who would have thought that an old Doris Day film would become one of the first French words we would learn "Que Sera, Sera" most of us have known it all our lives. Whilst writing this last paragraph i discovered that google is anti French it allows you to type in french without correcting the capital letter how strange and disrespectful is that.
It would be in error if I did not mention my almost identical knowledge of American with that of my native tongue.
I have had many occasions where i have had to correct my international colleagues when they have stated the the English are lazy, why do we not learn other languages, what makes us so special. I correct them by stating the fact that they are forced to learn American not English, Thanks to the Internet and the Bill Gates foundation Inc ( or Micro-soft-in the head). In order to learn from the internet one has to connect to the content and as it was developed in the West (America and England the new non EU continent, hi brothers nice to be acquainted with you) The language of said content was American. If you invent the technology you are not going to use Spanish as the language if you don't speak it just because it and Mandarin are the most spoken languages in the world. The individuals who have made this incorrect assumption have been predominately French who insist the British are arrogant, Pot and kettle springs to mind.
You have many interesting local dialects in the US also need I mention Kentucky where such wonderful deep american saying are used perhaps occasionally mixed with a little hint of Africarns or perhaps even deeper to include some Dutch.
I recently heard a conversation on the radio by Stephen Fry (Actor) where he was asked about punctuation. He happens to be quite a philosopher when it comes to the English language. He mentioned how he gets sucked into pointless discussions about "Freds Fish Shop" and weather it should have a hyphen or not. He stated that he tries to avoid such friends and discussions where they try to involve him in policing language. He said that the world is a wonderful place where people of all backgrounds converse with language which sets us far apart from other spices and shows our true individual expression. He felt that all language should be embraced as its uniqueness was what made it so special.
He also mentioned how rigid the French Language is and how there is a political consensus of maintaining that standard.
I still have not found a suitable replacement for the verb " F*** " it to has gender, he does, it she does it Its f--- etc
to say that those using bad language are un educated is not entirely correct - look we use it as a verb and quite positively construct meaningful sentences from it, it even has gender. i have formed a very well rounded opinion of Scholars over the years and find most themselves to be the most uneducated, i also include managers and politicians in this category. Preferring straight talkers instead.
The humour of Monty Python is written on such play of words, it requires the listener to finish the conversation using their own imagination and is the main reason why other cultures don't share the humour as there life experiences are different to the British culture. A perfect example is "The Office" the guy is a hated stereo type in the UK narcissistic to the core and believes he is gods gift, I'm sorry but the guy they used in the US was simply lame in comparison. I don't know if you found him funny but on a British scale he would be signing on for benefits as a comedian.
i did have pleasure whilst working out in Tunisia to gift a friend of mine a DVD box set of "Father Ted" - which is a comedy based around priests and the church. I do suspect that I may have accidentally started the Muslim rising in Tunis.
I want to change the subject and go back to lathes and building planes.
Just a couple decades back, this internet thing really got its steam going. Along with epic sharing of knowledge, whether factual or not, is how a viewpoint can be common to an incredible number of totally unrelated persons. Like most specialties, it has [gasp] a unique expanding vocabulary. Like deprecating 'noob' magnifies and worsens into 'n00b'.
I guarantee this will cause some to lol, rofl, lmao, and at least one who'll C|N>K.
TeeHee
Ooops,forgot the link. https://www.ruf.rice.edu/~kemmer/Wor..._internet.html
Some of the best movie scripts emulate classic authors. My favorite, Rudyard Kipling, for example The Man Who Would Be King.
Daniel Dravot lectures his Er-Heb recruits while Billy Fish translates....
Now listen to me, you benighted muckers! We're going to teach you soldiering, The world's noblest profession! When we're done with you, you'll be able to stand up and slaughter your foes like civilized men! But first, you will have to learn to march in step. And do the manual of arms without even having to think! Good soldiers don't think, they just obey! Do you suppose that if a man thought twice, he'd give his life for Queen and Country? Not bloody likely! He wouldn't go near the battlefield! One look at your foolish faces tells me that you're going to be crack troops. Ohhh him there with the five-and-a-half hat size has the makings of a bloody hero!
Peachy Carnehan to Billy Fish, on Daniel's apparent invincibility....
Danny's only a man. But he can break wind at both ends simultaneous — which is more, I reckon, than any god can do!
Many years ago or I should say more than half a dozen decades ago I began a trek what this trek was or where it might carry me I had no awareness. I wasn't even aware of being on a trek. For years I have told the story of my starting out in the world of labor as a humble beginnings at a blacksmith shop at the tender age of 11. However through the passage of time I realize I actually started much younger than that. Nearly a decade younger as difficult as one's comprehension of a boy as young as 1 or 2 years of age actually being the beginning of their life long career. However this is actually true at least I believe it to be true. That one can be set on a path which would be the path they follow throughout their lives.
These are by no means my own memories that I am about to share but the telling's of my parents and friends of theirs who knew them when I was still in nappies.
You see my mother worked my Grandfather worked my grandmother kept house both theirs and the houses of others. Obviously my dad worked as well. and it was he who took care of me during the day while at his job much of the time since my mother could not care for me at her job far too dangerous to have a baby crawling around at a drycleaners with the chemicals and live steam presses everywhere.
Now you might ask what kind of job my dad had that allowed him to care for an infant Well he was a mechanic not the movie portrayal of a mechanic like Charles Bronson or Jathan Stathan though being a retired gunny sgt he certainly could have qualified as one had he chose to. No he was an automobile and truck mechanic, and what he would do was to make a pallet of an old wool blanket on the floor for me then give me items like carburetors distributors and tools to play with. I am told and I believe a still living Aunt of mine has a few pictures of me playing with my toys. This lasted for several well maybe not several but a few years. I do think that I remember my dad tossing a guy out of his shop because he had drug me off of the blanket or maybe I was old enough at the time by then that I had wandered off the blanket to get some tool that a guy had picked up from it I was probably around 3 ish I guess by then. I'm sure I pretty much had the run of the place but was always told to stay on the blanket to play with the toys OK most of you guys had children's toys to play with mine were car or engine parts and tools.
Skip forward a couple years And this I do remember. Why do I remember it because it was my first visit to a dentist I had knocked a tooth out and my mouth was bleeding So pop had to carry me to see the big guy wearing a white jacket. while sitting in the chair I was staring at a picture on his wall of an airplane and a man in uniform standing by it.
That's my son and that is the plane that he fly's he said.
Oh I said. I bet I can make one of those. Mind you I'm not yet 5 years old, The dentist just laughed and said that I have to see. I went to the mechanics shop once in a while with my dad and there is no pallet any more but a table and chair for me to work on the carburetors only now I'm taking them apart and putting them back together obviously not the ones pop is going to be re installing on a car. The next day at the shop I grab a pair of snips and some card board and some wire and nails I sat down and cut out what I thought the shape of the DC3 in the picture looked like then bent the cardboard into a cylindrical shape made wings rolled some cardboard to look like the engines wired everything together. By the time my stitches were due to come out I carried that plane with me..
Skip forward 20 odd years After leaving the Army I take the wife and kids on a trip down memory avenue we drive to Austin I show her and my girls the hospital where I am told I was born. my oldest had one of those little Kodak 110 cameras and was snapping away taking pictures of the sights and the capital I told her she should save some of her film because there might be something she really wanted to get a picture of but what to 6 year olds know? Today with the cameras in every phone that can hold a zillion pictures that wouldn't be a problem LOl
anyway we drive by a dentistry. I wonder if that is the same place where I had to go as a kid I asked so on a whim I decided to stop and inquire sure enough it was and there on a wall was a picture of the cardboard plane next to the guy picture in the plane. I asked one of the nurses if the model still existed.
No she said at least she didn't think it did.
My oldest daughter is furious because she had just ran out of film and didn't have another roll.
Skip forward a few more years I am designing and building a drilling rig while working for a guy he breaks off a bolt on his motorcycle and starts to drill it out I tell him that I can get it out without risking damage to the threads. SO I grab a stinger and a nut then weld the nut to the bolt and remove it. Where did you learn that trick?
at the blacksmith shop I used to work at as a kid about 15 years ago I told him.
Skip forward a few more years I perfected the art of removing broken bolts broke off deep down in the holes while working on cat equipment. I say perfected I must have removed close to a 1000 bolts like that over the years but sometimes I would mount an assembly in a mill and mill out the bolts leaving only the Dutchman (just the threads)
The day before yesterday my neighbor calls me up before I have finished my first cup of morning coffee.
Frank my brother can you help me out?
I don't know you haven't told me what it is yet.
I've been 2 days trying to get this bolt out of a hydraulic pump. I've managed to weld out 3 of them with the stud puller rod but 1 I can't get.
I'll be over in a couple minutes.
Coffee cup in hand I show up at his place a mile away. Yeah I think I can salvage it for you but you have already done a lot of damage to the housing at least you haven't gotten into the o ring seat though so it will still be OK.
His customer is standing there and as we really need this thing as soon as possible if it can be fixed I'm the one who drilled and ground into the housing Billy took out the other 3 bolts for me.
Ok so you are the bad guy here I said.
Yeah and we can't get a new pump for a couple of weeks.
I bring the pump back to my place and set up my mill they have already do so much damage I didn't dare try and weld out the bolt my mill is just tall enough to get the pump under an end mill and only that because I had one that I bought at auction that had been sharpened a few times.
Anyway I get it repaired around dark Billy and he show up early the next morning to pick it up.
then lo and behold Billy calls me again this morning the same guy who I found out is a mechanic for a company has something else with broken bolts in it .
What are they doing with their equipment I asked using them for battering rams Billy just laughs and says I'm not even going to try to get these bolts out Mike has already drilled them and broken off an ezeout and I have to be somewhere else can you or will you take a look at it for him. Yeah tell him to bring it by I'll see what I can do.
2 hours later the bolts are out and Mike is happy I hope next week is not a repeat.
Epic. Like a good song, it writes a mental video.
Mine is completely different, no one in my past did work related to the trades. It took interest and energy finding the inbound pathway. But it started with the autobiography on John M. Browning.
Despite recent disappointments, if going back was possible, I'd do the same. Really put thought into progressing every day, some are just incremental steps. Also learned, in many of our negative personal situations, we're equipped to remedy those on our own.
If not, you've wasted your effort; regardless what seems like success.
Work or play, nearly the same for me.
Right now though, I'm trying to branch out.
Ordered a stretcher-shrinker.
Arrived today.
Turns out, not being a marital aid. . .
I suppose one could be used in that fashion but you and the receiving person would have to be heavily into the BDSM scene.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toolmaker51
might me more of a divorce aid than marital though
