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    Tail Stock Spider

    One of my current projects involves working with 4”
    schedule 40 steel pipe. Specifically truing up the ends
    after band sawing to length, chamfering the ends for welding,
    and cleaning up the outside from welds in its previous life.

    Like many others, in the past a I have used a wooden cone
    shaped plug. The wood plug is typically only good for one
    use. It is not adjustable for good centering. It gets in the way
    of machining the ends. It is time to make a more permanent tool.

    The spider idea evolved while centering a pipe with the chuck
    jaws on the inside. Putting the initial thoughts on paper
    I get something like this

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    To get started, Layout out and rough cut a thick disk
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    Turn to size
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    Finish turn
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    Scribe for holes using the cross slide and cutting tool.
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    Transfer scribed lines to the edge, Drill and Tap
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    The original design needed modification. There was not
    enough room between the body and the inside of the pipe
    to work the wrench when centering the part. In retrospect
    the body could have just been square. The bolt and sleeve
    were held in the tailstock chuck to hold the part in alignment
    while the chuck is tightened. Steel bars provide more
    support for the part.
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    Since the part was already threaded, insert a set screw.
    Remove after machining to clean up any damaged threads.
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    Note nuts added and jammed against the head of
    the bolts. This provides a better surface for the wrench.
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    A length of PVC pipe was pressed between the spider
    and the chuck which held the spider in position while
    adjusting. NOT an ideal solution.
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    Ready to face end
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    After the first use, the bolt heads needed to tapered.
    The flat head and hex shape made centering awkward.
    The jam nuts become even more important with
    the head trimmed.
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    Removable tabs were added to replace the PVC.
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    Dial in the center. Although the surface of the pipe is
    rusty, pitted and the pipe is not perfectly round you can
    still get it pretty close.
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    Remove tabs after spider is centered securely in the pipe.
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    Face the end. Replace the tabs after facing and slide
    the spider in to be sure there is pressure holding things
    together in case the spider works loose while turning the outside.
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    The parts
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    The goal. Eventually this pipe will be an extension, welded
    to the crucible for my electric furnace. I have to stop at this
    point until I get my furnace back in service. The welds are
    just too hard to effectively machine. Hoping I will be able
    to anneal the whole pipe then finish machining the welds and
    bevel the ends for welding


    Will keep you posted as things progress
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