I generally work off of the 3 plane theory front plane right plane top (or end) plane all planes coexisting based on a point of origin that being the the center one end of the cylinder generally oriented centered to the top/ end plane with front and right planes being perpendicular to top plane and at right angles to each other co-sharing the axis of the extruded length of said cylinder from these 3 planes if need be I can create an infinity of sub planes using any 3 points of data coinciding with the 3 base planes or dimensional points along within or tangential to the circle a segment there of or length of the cylinder.
Visualizing what I am trying to say comes easy for me expressing the mental picture in correct worded terminology often escapes since I no longer feel all of my neuro-receptors fire correctly

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