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    The tail has tremendous elevator authority. At 4:01 you can see him lift the tail off the ground standing still! Many tail dragers need some forward velocity to do this. It has two tandem engines thus assuming CG is located somewhere between them. Probably quite a bit BEHIND the center-line of the wheel axles. Tail dragers have the CG behind the axles so the tail will sit on the ground. As mentioned, wheel drag would create a turning moment about the CG but some of it is attenuated by the distance from the CG. Also mentioned, pitch stability needs to offset that moment. Look carefully at 3:37 and 3:38. As the wheels make initial water contact there is only a slight UP deflection of the elevator. However, milliseconds later you will see the plane LIFT from the hydroplaning wheels as they start to dig in. At that exact time he aggressively applies UP elevator. With the tremendous elevator authority, and the UPWARD acceleration from the hydroplaning wheels, everything is in harmony. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltfever View Post
    The tail has tremendous elevator authority. At 4:01 you can see him lift the tail off the ground standing still! Many tail dragers need some forward velocity to do this. It has two tandem engines thus assuming CG is located somewhere between them. Probably quite a bit BEHIND the center-line of the wheel axles. Tail dragers have the CG behind the axles so the tail will sit on the ground. As mentioned, wheel drag would create a turning moment about the CG but some of it is attenuated by the distance from the CG. Also mentioned, pitch stability needs to offset that moment. Look carefully at 3:37 and 3:38. As the wheels make initial water contact there is only a slight UP deflection of the elevator. However, milliseconds later you will see the plane LIFT from the hydroplaning wheels as they start to dig in. At that exact time he aggressively applies UP elevator. With the tremendous elevator authority, and the UPWARD acceleration from the hydroplaning wheels, everything is in harmony. :-)
    Thank for the explanation. It's pretty amazing take off really. Less than 30 ft and it was airborne. Another plane that does the same is the Carbon Cub. If anyone is interested, here is another video that shows amazing performance for a small plane. Tremendous use of the elevator to balance the ridiculously short landing at time mark 1:18.


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