Wise vise bench.

Made a simple improvement to my shop.

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Parts before welding and "decorative" drillings.

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Picture from building process:

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I used M16 trapezoid thread.
Nut is weld to pipe with tig. All other welds with 1.6mm ok 73.15 welding rod.

Nut would have been possible to weld with stick too, but i wanted to protect threads from splatters, choosed the easiest way in that point. I wanted to design my stool with minimal visible welds, no actual reason for that, just like it that way.


Swivel stool is usefull specially when filing, its easy to keep your position optional.
With regular stool you need to stand up and move stool, make those little "micro movements" time after time around the workpiece.

Also it helps when welding pipes / tubes too. It allows welder to move around the workpiece, without need to move position of the hands.

To get more use from the stool, it has an option to use it as a extra support too.

Specially with curved pipes, you can adjust the height and angle, to get support to desired spot.
When seat is opened, you can find two V-grooves under it.

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Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWbZSOMt-XM

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Forgot to mention this.

Mounting holes ain't at the same level. This allows to bolt it trough the leg.

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Also, i mounted my worktable to the floor from every corner.
Now it doesn't move... even if i want to.

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Clever. Reminds me of Tool Box Wall Mount Swivel Platform by Catfish.

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Clever. Reminds me of Tool Box Wall Mount Swivel Platform by Catfish.

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Thanks Jon. That is very clever what Catfish did.
Im glad if you see similarities between my build and that.

Looks great Tuomas
The older you get the more your going to enjoy that stool, LOL

Doug

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Looks great Tuomas
The older you get the more your going to enjoy that stool, LOL

Doug

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Thanks! That filing was just one example. Of course it helps when welding pipes / tubes too. It allows welder to move around the workpiece, without need to move position of the hands.

And when seat is opened, it can be used to support long pipes.
I planned to make similar to my workplace too, i bet it will be very usefull there, and i believe it will be copied somewhat fast to other workstations too. Simple solution, but i believe it will be very usefull for me, with many tasks.

I like it, and the video perfectly details the builds. A seat supporting material is uber creative. And the slip pin makes it portable, just need a few mount plates.
And I MUST find the wheels you cut and shape with. Slicing wheels [a few that don't] perform so well. So far, haven't gotten such great sanding wheels...

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I like it, and the video perfectly details the builds. A seat supporting material is uber creative. And the slip pin makes it portable, just need a few mount plates.
And I MUST find the wheels you cut and shape with. Slicing wheels [a few that don't] perform so well. So far, haven't gotten such great sanding wheels...

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Thanks buddy.

I use these flap wheels:

https://katalog.mav.cz/detail.php?id=78170

Lukas SLTT ZK 40 125mm Lasts long and removes material quickly. Also i like shape of them, straight edges and grinding surface.

For cutting i use these 3M cubitron 2 cut off wheels:

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-...0927385&rt=rud

Couple more pictures:

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Idea should be seen from those pictures.

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Thanks buddy.

I use these flap wheels:
https://katalog.mav.cz/detail.php?id=78170
Lukas SLTT ZK 40 125mm Lasts long and removes material quickly. Also i like shape of them, straight edges and grinding surface.

For cutting i use these 3M cubitron 2 cut off wheels:
https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-...0927385&rt=rud

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3M
Have total respect for them. Best evidence of 'you get what you pay for'. Anything they produce performs well, and sets standards for other companies.
I'll use the grade and specs for the flap wheels for US equivalents, especially squared edges.
In your video's, they're always spinning, couldn't tell if bonded abrasive or what, never saw flap wheels work so aggressively. All of ours seem rounded off, so while they do sand/ grind, it's not what I'd call metal removal.

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3M
Have total respect for them. Best evidence of 'you get what you pay for'. Anything they produce performs well, and sets standards for other companies.
I'll use the grade and specs for the flap wheels for US equivalents, especially squared edges.
In your video's, they're always spinning, couldn't tell if bonded abrasive or what, never saw flap wheels work so aggressively. All of ours seem rounded off, so while they do sand/ grind, it's not what I'd call metal removal.

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Yeah, with flap discs there's a big difference what you use. I have found those Lukas ones to be good for me. Another great product for metal removing is 3M fiber disc with 36 grade, suprisingly 25 grade doesn't perform as well as those 36 grade fiber discs does. :)

Forgot to mention this.

Mounting holes ain't at the same level. This allows to bolt it trough the leg.

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Also, i mounted my worktable to the floor from every corner.
Now it doesn't move... even if i want to.

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I really like the stool idea for a dedicated work station. Especially when tig welding. Most of my projects in recent years have been more of the just get it done so I could return to my primary project. This usually means completely ignore fit and finish since they usually wind up being of the 1 time use category.
The pluses and minuses of an attitude like mine means that I don't spend a lot of time on the specialty tools but at the same time this leaves me with little to show for my efforts as well.
For your stool I would have probably just hacked together something to sit on then gone about my business I would have had function but without form

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I really like the stool idea for a dedicated work station. Especially when tig welding. Most of my projects in recent years have been more of the just get it done so I could return to my primary project. This usually means completely ignore fit and finish since they usually wind up being of the 1 time use category.
The pluses and minuses of an attitude like mine means that I don't spend a lot of time on the specialty tools but at the same time this leaves me with little to show for my efforts as well.
For your stool I would have probably just hacked together something to sit on then gone about my business I would have had function but without form

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Yeah. We have that same situtation at my workplace.
I made this to be used in home, but actual reason to make it was to show idea to my boss.

Those doesn't seem to understand if i try to explain something.

Luckily they liked the idea an promised to deliver machined & cut parts so we can build our owns to be used in work too.

Also i got small bonus from the idea, so this was fun and also profitable project. :)

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Yeah. We have that same situtation at my workplace.
I made this to be used in home, but actual reason to make it was to show idea to my boss.

Those doesn't seem to understand if i try to explain something.

Luckily they liked the idea an promised to deliver machined & cut parts so we can build our owns to be used in work too.

Also i got small bonus from the idea, so this was fun and also profitable project.

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Good On you Tuomas for the small bonus and propagating one of your brilliant multifunctional, HMT ideas!! :clapping: Well Deserved! Love the build over all and the idea of the extension for the vice was also well worthy of Praise and pre-thinking your seat brackets design...once again brilliant. Relieving stress and strain with those delicate and tedious task is a big time win in my book!

:hattip: PJ

Typically, I share with those who appreciate, can visualize, or flat-out need same item. Rarely are 'those' anyone handing out compensation.
As Craftsmen, direct brethren of Industrial Revolutionaries, our station erodes with each passing day...yet maintain personal value by sheer will.
Being discounted as resources, does not mean working for discount rates.

:soapbox: As mentioned before, if 'our work is viewed as overhead; what legacy or salable items do cubicle monkeys generate?

in 78 I was working at a company that built foundation drilling rigs. We were gearing up to come out with a new model.
Story continued
http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/s...-23#post111323

Ah yes, legendary material there, no? Thread: Shop Truths, Phrases, Tales; and Outright Lies
No period in history, on any continent, answering any situation, has there been a more fun loving group of industrial giants.
Allow me present the :rimshot: Epicyclic Elliptic Think & Do Continuum. (EETaDTC)
Venture forth and absorb equivalent ~300 years of experience.
:clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

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Good On you Tuomas for the small bonus and propagating one of your brilliant multifunctional, HMT ideas!! :clapping: Well Deserved! Love the build over all and the idea of the extension for the vice was also well worthy of Praise and pre-thinking your seat brackets design...once again brilliant. Relieving stress and strain with those delicate and tedious task is a big time win in my book!

:hattip: PJ

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Thanks buddy! Those bonuses are really small here, but its allways nice to get something extra. ��

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Ah yes, legendary material there, no? Thread: Shop Truths, Phrases, Tales; and Outright Lies
No period in history, on any continent, answering any situation, has there been a more fun loving group of industrial giants.
Allow me present the :rimshot: Epicyclic Elliptic Think & Do Continuum. (EETaDTC)
Venture forth and absorb equivalent ~300 years of experience.
:clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:

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Yeah. That's familiar to me.
Its sometimes very frustrating to explain that "we really need those tools".. or that "we need couple days to straighten our worktable".. maintain our tools or..

We have 13meters long worktable that's supported from the ends, it can be lifted and turned 360 degrees electrically.

We build components that weight + 10 tons on top of it. Loads of welds, so it should be obvious that it starts to bend slowly, and soon centerpoint is 5mm lower than ends.

That doesn't sound much, but when you need to make pieces with 5mm machining allowance, it takes much more time to straighten workpiece afterwards, because we have to build it bendt from the start. Lots of shrinking with heat afterwards to get result straight, mostly just because we don't have time to fix the table.

This example is from the one simple and light part. But it has loads of machining. Because our worktable is twisted and bend.
Result is that we need to straighten twisted workpiece with diagonal heats from both sides.

This has 2mn machining allowance on horizontal surfaces... and every time, it reguires loads of heating, just because.. blaah..

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Tuomas, one of the main assets I brought to the table when I worked at the various companies was I had a lot of brass when talking to the BRASS of a company Many didn't like it but none ever completely disagreed with me. I think it was my psyops training in the military that taught me how to employ tact. In the long run I could make the things I did seam like it was their idea

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Its sometimes very frustrating to explain that "we really need those tools".. or that "we need couple days to straighten our worktable".. maintain our tools or..

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This has 2mn machining allowance on horizontal surfaces... and every time, it reguires loads of heating, just because.. blaah..

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We feel your pain Tuomas. Your first point about maintenance of your area and tools is so important for efficiency and peace of mind, and your second about the extra time it takes to Do Your Job without proper tools and maintenance is so costly for all involved, but mainly breeds discontent which is more damaging in the long run, imho. I added to Franks story on Shop Truths, Phrases, Tales; and Outright Lies as an example of what you are talking about...do it right, the best you can, First time! First rule of Kaizen (my version)...Plan, Plan, Plan, Execute.

Communicating and getting such points across to Uppers is always challenging. Almost every place I've worked I have started an incentive program to listen to All Ideas and a system to evaluate the efficacy and implement them as quickly as possible for their ROI benifits...That alone is a difficult task to get across to uppers...but the benefits are well worth the effort imho and have lots of examples. It's also very important to feedback to those suggestions that didn't make the cut and why, which can breed further development that does work!

Kudo's again for getting your idea implemented even though it seems pitance! Everyone here knows what you bring!

:hattip: PJ

That was a great project. I’m gonna have to try and make myself one or two. Thanks for the post.