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Yacht burns then sinks off the coast of Sardinia.

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Previously:

https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...587#post159055
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...984#post156957
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...973#post125093
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...161#post153708
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...259#post141967
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...188#post165360

Well... fire's out.

A Cobalt that burned and sank this summer here...
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Living on a yacht full time biggest fear is fire not a lot you can do ,seen the odd one burn ,very fast and hot as hell,not even mentioning the fuels gasoline diesel gas adding to the mayhem.Fire suppression systems mostly in engine rooms but a lot off fires start in the galley or wheelhouse as electrical shorts.

Most big ship fires start in the galley or the laundry, nearly all the ships ive been on the majority of alarms were from the Laundry.
That’s taking into consideration the amount of welding and construction that was carried out on deck. i have only ever fought one fire on board (trained for hundreds), A hydraulic hose burst next to a steam turbine engine which instantly erupted into flames - i grabbed the size 2 hose and FB5X foam applicator and started to attack the fire. 10 minutes later i got told off, the chief said why didn’t you just isolate the hydraulic pump (ie remove the fuel). The punishment was to clean up all the AFFF foam. From my previous occupations, another serious cause of fire was missiles, thankfully never ended up on the receiving end of one.

This was fun, the unluckiest ship in the Royal Navy; it sinks at least 3 times a week.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXC6...annel=TomScott

This is a very armature attempt at saving a vessel, men in white overalls are trainee officers, you tend to see a lot more activity and aggression when they are in blue.
just saying

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This is a very armature attempt at saving a vessel, men in white overalls are trainee officers, you tend to see a lot more activity and aggression when they are in blue.
just saying

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yes it would appear to be their first or second time in the training exercise, judging by their timid movements. As we herd near the end their comments about how it took them 20 minutes to do the same thing a more seasoned team would have done in 5 minutes.

Agreed.
They didnt even get 100% Havoc, usually there is only 6" gap at the top of the compartment and all the wedges and pad pieces start floating away.
The other rig at the fire school is equall as interesting you put the fire out and then get drownwd, Its not articulated though. The idea is the less water you use to put the fire out the less you have in the compartment when the water comes in. I used some insider knowledge, when we were getting instruction on top of the rig i payed close attention to the water main and valves. It got isolated pretty damn quick after the fire was out. One of the exercises was a split fire main. scored pretty high for knowledge of the ship.

The civilian fire service were always jelous of the fact we had twin bottle basca sets and 3 thermal imaging cameras on all RN ships. Cumbria Fire service here at home onlt had 1 thermal camera and if it was on the wrong engine it had to be delivered to the other or it was brought out by the senior officer to the one that needed it. I hope in the last 20+ years that has changed. We now have 2 posh state of the art fire houses, the old victorian station has finally been abandoned.
From a previous thread on 125 man liferafts - we were always told the best life raft is the ship you are on, fight for it until all hope is lost. its easier to find a ship at sea than it is to find liferafts in the water. which brings us onto SOLAS, the best thing ever invented. If you have ever seen a radar screen when someone is in distress neatby and has set off an Eperb, lets just say its about the only thing you can see on the radar screen, a nice big target. there was a guy up in aberdeen who worked for SOLAS and he was taking some old equipment back for servicing, on his journey home one triggered in his car, by the time he got home to manchester he was met by a huge parafin puffing yellow heckalopter. Probably a fine.

Some possible lead on the poor yacht's ownership/ backgound:
https://eurasianet.org/kazakhstan-ya...ongues-wagging

This, if nothing else is a salutary note about fiberglass. I used to build boats, one I built for myself was 60 ft long and weighed 50 tons in steel, the engine room was amidships with submarine door and could be sealed. under those circumstances, fires self extinguish. The galley was on deck (deckhouse) with a steel floor so the worst thing that could happen was to lose the wheelhouse. 5 water tight compartments in the hull, plus double bottom (water, diesel and cooling tanks).

My Uniflite was built with fire retardant resins...

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This, if nothing else is a salutary note about fiberglass.

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-Wishful thinking? "Hull: Steel. Superstructure: Aluminium"
Check this: https://www.superyachttimes.com/yachts/lady-mm

One who do a 1 min search could also find that the bridge of this apparently very flammable vessel
was afire already in Nice (France) end of Feb 2012:

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https://www.superyachttimes.com/yach...n-port-of-nice

It was named "360°" from 2009-2017/18, but also "SonKa", "April Fool II", and "April Fool", those changes didn't help, either...
A search for any yacht named "Complete Loss", "Total Deprecitation" or "Claims Waived" returns 0 hits, tho.

I've always heard that renaming any vessel was not a good idea unless it had been dry docked, stripped to the hull and rebuilt

I heard there was a superstition renaming ships. the SS Great Eastern rings a bell. (pun intended) Formely the Leviathan

https://cdn.britannica.com/s:700x500...mbard-1858.jpg

Quote "Brunel made outstanding contributions to marine engineering with his three ships, the Great Western (1837), Great Britain (1843), and Great Eastern (originally called Leviathan; 1858), each the largest in the world at its date of launching."
Ref.
https://www.britannica.com/biography...unel#ref214058

https://seeksghosts.blogspot.com/201...t-eastern.html

https://www.discoverboating.com/reso...ming-your-boat

So you see that yaught was screwed (another pun intended)

Also RMS Titanic although not renamed that we know of (unless it was actually swapped with the Olympic) sufferd a much worse state by angering the gods. Its name Titanic - Titan being the great god. suggested that the vessel was a god or greater than god and was put to the test.

at least they all had a crew unlike the Mary Celeste

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...ste-174488104/

Being on a small island in the atlantic, you sort of get a feel for such things. If all is well and good, some bugger ties a lamp onto a donkeys tail on the cliff tops and tricks vessels into running aground. Tricky stuff the sea.

I guess a good moto for this yacht story is, dont let the rich play with matches.

Or the very rich. The Royal Navy found out the hard way in they're warships during the Falklands war that aluminium super structures when they burn, burn very hot and are almost impossible to extinguish.

Old Kodger, you are so right.
I watched the 911 documentary last night regarding the so called controlled explosions which brought down the towers.
Its taken years for the safety board to finally accept that the burning aluminium from the aircraft was the direct cause of heat getting to the buildings super structure and causing it to collapse that floor the result of which was a concertina effect where the weight of the floors above collapse the one below - structurally simulated and analysed and proven that the concertina affect was certainly why the towers fell so quickly - this they agreed on.
The Royal Navy certainly stopped using one construction material with immediate effect from its ships following the Falklands. Formica/plastic laminates. This stuff got hot and exploded into jagged pieces like glass, numerous injuries were reported caused by this that it very quickly disappeared. It could have been it fragmented when objects hit it, like long grey pointy tube with fins on it full of big bang stuff. In any case the stuff is bloody lethal.

Reading back over this post that yacht was doomed from the start. I followed a couple of the links regarding it being on fire before. Not only that but similar craft had suffered fires – in the wheel house. The boat builder is taking the pee. They clearly have an issue with the boats wiring of something. It’s a good job poor folks like us have more sense than to buy one. What goes around comes around as they say. They might be good footballers, bankers or actors but if I were them id stick to what they know, the sea isn’t for the uneducated.

The Great eastern is a good starting point to mention the three quarter screw, now that the navy has been mentioned.
Sir Francis Petit smith who invented the ships propeller was laughed at by the admiralty who believed that his invention would never be superior or replace the paddles on its paddle steamers

https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Francis_Pettit_Smith

A similar response that John Harrison received from the admiralty when he invented the marine time piece

https://www.rmg.co.uk/discover/explo...0aAvisEALw_wcB

It makes me laugh when they build a new ship like the Queen Elizabeth for example and say its state of the art. (state of the Ark perhaps). There will be equipment which has been installed because it was cheaper than newer technology - its not a no holds barred project with a blank cheque. One toy it may have is phased array radar, man that stuff is impressive. You can track and engage up to 100 targets all at the same time, gone are the old single sweep PPI radar screens. Incidentally the new lcd radar screen are able to display a sweep, some of the operators preferred seeing the line sweep around the display so it was put back in even though it serves no purpose. I believe they have done the same on the Airbus aircraft.