.22 Rifiling Machine old school style

**Jamman** · Mar 24, 2016, 11:59 AM

I want to build a Rifiling machine for My M6 Build any one want to help or give me some input or Ideas ??

.22 Rifiling Machine old school style-old-rifiling-tool.jpg

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If you check out my project page my m6 scout build I got a few mor pics so basicly I need a .22 button a cylinder set up like above pic dont have to be wood and a frame to hold it in any takers on helping me on this quest LoL

**Jamman** · Mar 24, 2016, 12:09 PM

here are some vids like what I was thinking on

**Jamman** · Mar 24, 2016, 12:20 PM

**Jamman** · Mar 24, 2016, 12:21 PM

hope I get some views at least may be a interested party ???/

**kbalch** · Mar 24, 2016, 12:34 PM

Oh, I'm interested - I just don't have the relevant expertise.

Sometimes it takes some time before the right guy sees a particular post. Not everyone checks their sites as frequently as some of us do…

Ken

**Jamman** · Mar 25, 2016, 11:28 PM

This guy has the setup but no details on how to make the machine or the button If I got get one the experts to fill me in on how to make the button I think I coud figgure the rest

**10thumbs** · Mar 27, 2016, 08:28 AM

The machine in the video uses a cutter, not a button. It cuts one groove at a time, and takes several passes per shim, and several shims per groove. (He is cutting as much as he can with one shim, then indexing for the next groove. When he has cut all the grooves with that shim, he adds another, then starts all over with the process till he gets them all the correct depth.)
The setup he is using is called a sine bar rifling machine. The bar on the left can be set for various rifling twists by moving the end to a different position, (if he was wanting a gain-twist, the sine bar would have to be bent in a curve).

This is a much more convenient setup than button rifling, but more time consuming. Button rifling is used in mass production, and takes a lot more overhead.
For one barrel, another barrel could be used as a guide which would eliminate the necessity of building a machine. Ebay has barrels of all kinds.

As to the cutter, it is just a broach, shaped in a slight hook. They can be made from tool steel, like 0-2, or made out of a piece of old file that has been annealed, shaped, and rehardened.

A source of good information on this is Foxfire book #5.

**gpete** · Mar 27, 2016, 08:03 PM

I see the machine gun build has been deleted. That gun was definitely illegal to make or own.I don't sympathize with the anti gun crowd. It amazes me that someone would be so un knowledgable as to post a video like that. Some people have gotten five years in the slammer for doing this very thing.

**Jamman** · Mar 28, 2016, 01:07 PM

people do dum things that is why we have laws The unknown Cat says know the law and use it to protect your rights

**bbutcher85** · Mar 30, 2016, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by gpete

I see the machine gun build has been deleted. That gun was definitely illegal to make or own.I don't sympathize with the anti gun crowd. It amazes me that someone would be so un knowledgable as to post a video like that. Some people have gotten five years in the slammer for doing this very thing.

It is only illegal to build or own a machine gun if you do not have the proper permits. I have a friend who builds full automatic guns and suppressors (silencers). He is legal and has all the required permits. From what I understand the permits are not cheap, but can be obtained by anyone who passes the background checks. It is legal for anyone to shoot the guns in full automatic mode with a silencer provided the permit holder is present and supervising the activity. You are right about going to jail for this sort of thing without the permits however.

Bob