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    Quote Originally Posted by DIYSwede View Post
    Quick question: -Anybody having problems overrevving ball bearings?

    For instance, given the 12 000 rpm angle grinder and a 60 mm OD drive wheel,
    the suggested 62200 2RS1 (with 17000 max rpm) would get up to 24 k rpm...

    (A 43 mm OD drive wheel would keep the revs down, but still provide 60 mph belt speed)

    Any risk and/ or damage assessments out there?

    Just asking, and better safe than sorry...

    Johan
    Yes. You are right. Thanks for pointing this out.
    It's better to put 3 bearings 6200 2Z (limiting speed 24000 rpm) than 2 bearings 62200 2RS1.
    When I was ordering bearings, I ordered 6 pcs 62200 2 RS1 and 9 pcs 6200 2Z, but decided to keep these 6200 2Z for some other projects.
    Will replace them once I come back home.

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    Ball Bearings

    Several years ago I had a high rpm air powered hand grinder. I had two of these totally blow apart where the ball bearings simply disintegrate. Pieces flew everywhere. I think it hade something to do with not having dry air. I should have had a better air lube system as well.
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    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/s...191#post106483 SMALL QC TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/q...849#post119345 QUICK CHANGE LATHE TURRET
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/m...949#post119893 MINI LATHE COMPOUND PIVOT MODIFICATION

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    OTOH: Given the 17000 max rpm of a 10 mm OD inner axle,
    would perhaps allow the 30 mm outer race a max (theoretical) rpm of 25 500 rpm
    (given an assumed ball cage max rpm of 8500 rpm)?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DN_Factor

    I still remember my engineering teacher in 1977 dissing rotating outer races rather than inner axles.
    BAD engineering practice...

    Or, am I mistaken (again)?

    Johan
    Last edited by DIYSwede; Jun 19, 2021 at 09:27 AM. Reason: added 1977 flashback

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    Bearings

    Unless I am mistaken, I would think the outer race would rotate at would rotate at a slower speed than the inner race. But I am not an engineer.
    I am still interested in what you find. Maybe the manufacturer could shed some light on this.
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    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/s...191#post106483 SMALL QC TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/q...849#post119345 QUICK CHANGE LATHE TURRET
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    No big deal - I was just bothering my brain with this.

    Hypothesis: When an axle in an inner race rotate @ 17000 rpm,
    hence the cage should rotate with half that rpm (as the outer race is fixed) 8500 rpm, Right?
    This is where I was mistaken:
    In wrongly assuming the outer race could turn faster than twice the given ball cage max speed.

    Thanks for pitching in, you guys!
    Johan

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    Last edited by DIYSwede; Jun 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM. Reason: Added PS

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIYSwede View Post
    ...PS:"Nobody can fool me as effectively and easily as I can"
    The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool. - Richard Feynman

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