Astronaut Buzz Aldrin punching moon conspiracy theorist in face GIF

A classic, now in GIF form, with slow-mo punch.

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We've all seen the "man didn't really land on the moon" conspiracy theories, most famously planted by the Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon? television broadcast, and regurgitated by the online distribution of a "rare" grainy video claiming to show the moon landings being filmed in a studio.

Surveys indicate that roughly 10-20% of Americans, many people in certain small countries, and various subcultures still subscribe to this theory. While extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, the third party evidence for Apollo moon landings certainly qualifies. NASA has also repeatedly issued a press release debunking these claims.

One such adherent to these theories was Bart Sibrel, taxi driver and moon hoaxer extraordinaire. In 2002, Sibrel contacted Buzz Aldrin, the second man to walk on the moon. Sibrel lured Aldrin to a Beverly Hills hotel, by claiming that he wanted to interview Aldrin for a Japanese children's television show. With cameras rolling, Sibrel demanded that Aldrin swear on a bible that he had indeed walked on the moon, and called Aldrin "a coward, and a liar, and a thief". Aldrin tried to walk away, but Sibrel persisted.

So Aldrin punched Sibrel in the face. The police found that Aldrin was provoked, and no charges were filed. Full video of the encounter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OROlF8zB9z0

Sibrel actually pulled this faux media credential bible-swearing gag with multiple Apollo astronauts, featured in his Astronauts Gone Wild movie. Here's him and Neil Armstrong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGqZj5dci_M


Previously:
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...pacewalk-51059
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...on-tools-58884
https://www.homemadetools.net/forum/...-orbiter-61787

There's an obvious solution to this jerk. Send him to the moon and let him hunt for the footprints, the bottom half of the LEM and the laser reflector that are still there. Or land him on the dark side with a flashlight and a picnic basket and let him find his way home.

Better yet, give him an opportunity to become the first man to walk on the sun. [Heavy duty, lockable restraints in the descent capsule may be required.]

Buzz Aldrin, a real 'Man's man'. Hope he didn't hurt his hand.

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There's an obvious solution to this jerk. Send him to the moon and let him hunt for the footprints, the bottom half of the LEM and the laser reflector that are still there. Or land him on the dark side with a flashlight and a picnic basket and let him find his way home.

Better yet, give him an opportunity to become the first man to walk on the sun. [Heavy duty, lockable restraints in the descent capsule may be required.]

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I wonder if the Hubble telescope can see those items on the moon?

The LEM base maybe but not the footprints. The presence of the laser reflector can be verified by, wait for it..., reflecting a laser beam from the earth back to the emitter, something that's been done many hundreds of times.

Even if Hubble took a picture of the LEM, the conspiracy nutbars probably contend that the Hubble itself is a conspiracy.

My idea of recruiting them for the first manned mission to the sun is still the best solution. Imagine a man-sized version of this...

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Buzz definitely had "the right stuff". Especially in that right hand :)

Why is salacious, low-life journalism, on an esteemed forum focused on tools and individual creativity?

Nice right hander Buzz! I bet that left him with a "buzz" of his own, good on you. Al

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My idea of recruiting them for the first manned mission to the sun is still the best solution.

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Yup, good idea, and if you told them it would set off at night most of them would probably go happily! ;)

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Why is salacious, low-life journalism, on an esteemed forum focused on tools and individual creativity?

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I don't mind when threads displace themselves, participants here are creative and certainly varied. Collectively we dissect topics and respond to facets in apparently common thought processes based on individual experience and background.
But Marv's planetary recliner for a lesser (of certain other hominids) Hominidae brought this to mind.

from John Prine and Peter case, lyricists extraordinaire...

"Space Monkey"

Space Monkey, Space Monkey
What you doing out there?
Why it's dark as a dungeon way up in the air

Come gather round me you little monkeys and a story I'll tell
About a brave young primate, outer space knew him well
He was born at the top of a big old tree
Way back in 1953.

He could swing through the jungle and hang by his toes
Till they took him to Russia cause they could I suppose
They dressed him up in a spacesuit and it started to snow
Shot him off in a rocket where no man would go

Space Monkey Space Monkey
What you doing out there?
Why it's dark as a dungeon way up in the air
There'll be no one to greet you when you get back home
No hammer or sickle you'll be on your own.

He had plenty of Cuban bananas and loads of Spam
But he found great difficulty trying to open the can
One day he slipped on a banana peel and the ship lost control
It spun out of orbit and shot out the black hole

It's been four decades now, that's nine monkey years
That's a long time for a Space Monkey to confront all his fears

Space Monkey Space Monkey
What you doing out there?
Why it's dark as a dungeon way up in the air
There'll be no one to greet you when you get back home
No hammer or sickle you'll be all on your own.

Space Monkey, Space Monkey
It's time to get real
The space race is over, how does it feel
Cold War's had a heatwave, Iron Curtain's torn down
They've rolled up the carpet in Space Monkey town

Now Leningrad is Petersburg and Petersburg's hell
For a card-carrying monkey with a story to tell
The Space Monkey was reportedly last sighted about
A half a block off of Red Square
In a karaoke bar having a few drinks with some of his friends
There was the dog that flew Sputnik
And a blind red-headed, one legged parrot
Who had done some minor research for Dow Chemical
They were drinking American Vodka
Imported all the way from Paducah, Kentucky
And reportedly had their arms around each other's
Shoulders singing.
"Those were the days, my friend, we thought they'd never end"

Space Monkey, Space Monkey
There's nothing to do
But it's better than living in a Communist zoo
There'll be no one to greet you when you get back home
No hammer or sickle you'll be all on you own

Writer(s): John Prine, Peter Case

from "Live On Tour" (1997)

Agreed, this thread is not about homemade tools. But it's about pseudoscience, which is strongly within our field of interest. Among web forums, we do an incredible job of staying on-topic, so this Tool Talk subforum is our chance to discuss stuff we like, but isn't always about homemade tools. These discussions also end up being searchable in Google, so they're a chance for us to attract people to this forum who share our culture and worldview.

I only saw John Prine in concert once, but he really delivered.

Here's a young John Prine with John Burns, playing Paradise in the backyard of the house he grew up in. 5:23 video, and the song starts at 2:07.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-SKCWXoryU


Another classic video, with John Prine in the raw, plucking in an old kitchen, delighting over the "Happy Enchilada" lyric joke:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNu46mpJC60

A lot of old tunes get "updated" and when I saw Marv's fix for the moon nutbar's I thought of Old Dan Tucker:

(Chorus)
Get out the way, Old Dan Tucker
Out the way, Old Dan Tucker
Get out the way, Old Dan Tucker
You're too late to get your supper


Dan built a rocket to the sun
Folks said "Now, Dan, that can't be done!"
Dan laughed and laughed with all his might
"What? Do you think I'm crazy? I'm goin' at night!"

Get out the way, Old Dan Tucker
Out the way, Old Dan Tucker
Get out the way, Old Dan Tucker
You're too late to get your supper

Dan went to the doc and the doc said "Son-
Take off your clothes, stick out your tongue.
Now stand by the window." When Dan asked why
Doc said "I'm mad at that neighbor guy."

Buzz Aldrin took a jab at the new moon landing film (First Man) on his Twitter yesterday: https://twitter.com/TheRealBuzz/stat...59675649171456 . The film is under fire for downplaying the role of America in the first moon landing, specifically for omitting the iconic flag planting scene.

Chuck Yeager spoke out a few days ago too: https://twitter.com/GenChuckYeager/s...55347857981440

If I'm good at anything, I hope it's humor, specifically tying odd things together.
Here, aided by one of a true national treasure, I offer......I won't bother with an obligatory 'Enjoy!', it's impossible to not enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d20z...ygpNa_&index=2

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My favorite moon hoax meme:

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My son, a wealth of trivia, told me of an interview with a film maker who said that with the state of the film industry in 1969, it would have been much more difficult to fake the landing than actually doing it!

I KNEW IT! 400,000 folks orchestrated a wild science fiction conspiracy......and kept under their hats 49 years.
Question then; is the count ascending or descending?

Ha! Keeping a piffling 400 000 quiet for 49 years on the moon landings has got to be easy!
I want to know how they keep the multi millions from all the nations of the world that have explored this planet, the airlines and the shipping companies that traverse this globe, the armed sentries, (apparently), that guard and protect the ice wall for the last, Oh I dont know, 400 years at least, quiet?
Want to know what I'm talking about? Just search Flat earth on yootoob. You will find your IQ drops 1 point for every minute of viewing.

Is this in any connection with homemade tools ?

Homemade conspiracies? :embarrassed:

Too bad he didn't really load-up that punch. 'Course, being an old man, he probably would have broken his hand. :hattip:

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Is this in any connection with homemade tools ?

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To be fair, your point is valid - I do have a task on my list to extract all of the non-homemade tools threads from this Best Homemade Tools subforum, and place them into the Tool Talk subforum. Our Tool Talk subforum is actually a wonderful casual discussion component of this forum, certainly when compared to the Off-Topic subforums in other DIY forums, but I want to make sure to keep those lines clean.

Considering the ages and professions of our members, it is not too hard to guess that some of them assisted in the various moon landings and other NASA missions, in the form of both intellectual contributions, and spacecraft parts that they personally machined - whether they can discuss it or not! :)

I'm pleased to report connections to the Space Shuttle.
Being present for a landing proved they were no hoax...Shuttle 'Discovery' STS-42 Edwards AFB, 30Jan1992 Until you see +200,000 odd pounds turn into wind and glide, touching down rear main gear then nosewheel with incredible control....no question most elegant machines ever.
INDASCO, Santa Fe Springs CA; one of many shops working on insulation tiles, material just beyond prototyping/ R&D stage. Being the only machinist made this a thrill.
Magna Tool, Los Alamitos, CA; again one of untold varied subcontractors, made retention catches for cargo bay. Dual hooks in a U configuration, just like trigger sears, undercuts inside the U. IIRC material was 455 SS, roughed interior, and finished bottom flat & radii with a handmade form-flycutter. I held the 'ears' with slotted jaws to access bottom inside, sine tilting head to undercut with 2nd handmade cutter. Also did some 2nd op work on tube fittings, seems they were airline, but ~3" Ø.
ODETICS, Anaheim CA. We built flight recorders, big reel to reel and 1" TEAC tape. Our lab did mechanical assembly, including the most precisely lubricated miniature ball bearings - with digital milligram scale, 10x microscope and pneumatic injector probably #30 needles.
PS: Our chief engineers were first to examine and reassemble shattered tape from recorder onboard Challenger...remainder of employees privileged to not have contents divulged to us.

If you recall photos of burning Iraqi/ Kuwaiti oilwells, circa Gulf War...You seen our work; built those reconnaissance decks too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuwaiti_oil_fires

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Ha! Keeping a piffling 400 000 quiet for 49 years on the moon landings has got to be easy!
I want to know how they keep the multi millions from all the nations of the world that have explored this planet, the airlines and the shipping companies that traverse this globe, the armed sentries, (apparently), that guard and protect the ice wall for the last, Oh I dont know, 400 years at least, quiet?
Want to know what I'm talking about? Just search Flat earth on yootoob. You will find your IQ drops 1 point for every minute of viewing.

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I gave it 2 minutes. Bailed out with 7 IQ points to spare.

A homemade tool? I would have to give that a yes at least in part. I was reading through my mother's life journal that she started writing a few years before passing away. She made a brief mention of a company she worked for briefly that was owned by one of the women who came up with the stitch design for the multi layered fabrics used in the making of the gloves for the mercury suit worn by several of the astronauts during the development of the space program. the lady came up with the idea while working at a women's undergarment factory and developed her stitch idea at home years later the lady ran a company called Bloats aircraft trim which was where my mother worked when she met her.
So yes I would not be at all surprised that there are numerous home designed articles associated with the moon landings.
Just because the major conglomerate called NASA has its name tattooed allover everything does not mean that said named conglomerate actually could have or would have come up with anything had it not been for the individuals working for them. Those individuals did not check their thought and design processes at the gat upon leaving work each day they sat at their kitchen tables or in their recliners or at a desk at home and doodled their designs.
There once was an ill informed person who said you did not build this. Well I say no company ever could made anything of importance without some home-brewed idea