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    Congratulations jjr2001 - your Die Filer is the Homemade Tool of the Week!

    We had a big week around here, but this is a decisive winner, and it's extremely well-documented.

    Some more nice builds from this week:

    Electric Furnace by rgsparber
    Double T-Nuts by editor@glue-it.com
    Single Point Lathe Threading Method by Crusty
    Circular Saw Guide by Didpoolhall
    Mini Lathe Crank by old_toolmaker
    Wall Mounted Revolving Storage by Kwandotechnic
    Tool Post Grinder by Crusty
    Tailstock Die Holder by bouboulas
    Electric Furnace Controller by rgsparber
    Bench Clamp by Kovanca Polock
    Pipe Vise by orioncons36
    Roller Support Stand by fawabros
    Hydraulic Vise by andrewwoody
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    Workshop Accessory Table by mklotz
    Optical Debugging Tool by rgsparber
    Latch by orioncons36
    Alternative Glue Bottle by tsbrownie
    Panel Hammer by th62
    Tap and Die Holders by jjr2001
    Die Holder Adaptor by jjr2001


    jjr2001 - you'll be receiving a $25 online gift card, in your choice of Amazon, PayPal, or bitcoin. Please PM me your current email address and gift card choice and I'll get it sent over right away.

    This is your 6th Homemade Tool of the Week win. Here are all of your Homemade Tool of the Week winning tools. Congrats again



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    JR,
    Congratulations on your Homemade tool of the week award!
    Well done and well deserved!
    Dick


    Links to some of my plans:

    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/f...6068#post65876 OFF-SET TAILSTOCK CENTER PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/s...995#post112113 SMALL TURRET TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/l...994#post112111 LARGE TURRET TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/m...383#post110340 MINI-LATHE CARRIAGE LOCK PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/s...191#post106483 SMALL QC TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/q...849#post119345 QUICK CHANGE LATHE TURRET
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/m...949#post119893 MINI LATHE COMPOUND PIVOT MODIFICATION

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    Thank you Jon and old_toolmaker. It is always exciting to receive the tool of the week award.
    The die filer is something that I have wanted in the shop for some time so I just put my other projects
    on hold and "got er done"

    Cheers and Keep Machining, JR
    Last edited by jjr2001; 07-18-2020 at 08:40 AM.
    Back to the shop.

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    Ideally, a die filer uses "parallel machine files", and shank is at the end to produce a cut on the down stroke. In general, needle files aren't a bad alternative, long as you are not working into an acute corner, where tapered shapes will bind. It's a lot like band sawing, best results are with three or more teeth engaged in the cut. Files are more forgiving, teeth meet material at an angle.
    When I started, die-filers were the only practical way to generate corners in a die, and taper beneath the cutting section, known as 'die-life'. Way before EDM, many contours were roughed out on a vertical band saw to start with; provided shop was equipped with a band saw welder...
    Sincerely,
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    ...we'll learn more by wandering than searching...

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    Thanks Toolmaker51, So far the needle files are doing the job. My application is for light duty work but if I happen
    on some machine files I will want to see how my little machine works with them.

    Cheers, JR
    Back to the shop.

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    Toolmaker51,

    I have many memories of using a die filer to build dies. I began my career in 1966 and used die filers to aid in building both the punch and the die. I was employed as a mold maker for most of my career and we occasionally had to build trim dies for the die casting industry. With the advent of EDM the die filer eventually became a obsolete piece of equipment and faded from the scene. EDM changed the way we did things, but did not totally replace hand work. Manufacturing continues to evolve and always will. I still enjoy using some of the old ways from time to time.
    Dick


    Links to some of my plans:

    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/f...6068#post65876 OFF-SET TAILSTOCK CENTER PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/s...995#post112113 SMALL TURRET TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/l...994#post112111 LARGE TURRET TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/m...383#post110340 MINI-LATHE CARRIAGE LOCK PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/s...191#post106483 SMALL QC TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/q...849#post119345 QUICK CHANGE LATHE TURRET
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/m...949#post119893 MINI LATHE COMPOUND PIVOT MODIFICATION

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    jjr2001,

    I really like your die filer and I am considering building one at some point. Being a hobby machinist I like building tools and always have.
    Dick


    Links to some of my plans:

    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/f...6068#post65876 OFF-SET TAILSTOCK CENTER PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/s...995#post112113 SMALL TURRET TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/l...994#post112111 LARGE TURRET TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/m...383#post110340 MINI-LATHE CARRIAGE LOCK PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/s...191#post106483 SMALL QC TOOL POST PLANS
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/q...849#post119345 QUICK CHANGE LATHE TURRET
    http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/m...949#post119893 MINI LATHE COMPOUND PIVOT MODIFICATION

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    Wire and sinker EDM might be modern; but my tooling budget says keep the die filer.
    Sincerely,
    Toolmaker51
    ...we'll learn more by wandering than searching...

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    Indeed. Sometimes I think I am in this just to build the tools! But I do like to do a cannon or special part
    for my son every now and again. Just started making a bracket for his plane to hold his Ipad just where he needs it.

    I did not get my metal shop going until about 2014 or so. Computers and Navigation systems from 1965 till 2000.
    Woodworking was always one of my hobbies since we wanted furniture made of wood not particle board and vinyl!
    After retiring from my 31 years at a computer firm and traveling a bit to many of the National Parks ( I love Eagles) I
    moved into RC model aircraft (yea, had to do a couple of "drones"). I still have a contra rotation prop drive motor that
    I want to build. I won't fly it, just run it like a steam engine model. The die filer for the small shop still looks like a very
    useful tool. I don't think any are being manufactured today except for the casting kits and bar-stock units like mine.

    Cheers, JR
    Back to the shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toolmaker51 View Post
    Wire and sinker EDM might be modern; but my tooling budget says keep the die filer.
    Yes indeed. That sounds like a very good plan.
    Back to the shop.

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