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    Dolphin's Armor medieval helmet - photos

    Dolphin's Armor helmet, part of a full plate armor made for the future King Henry II of France (1519-1559).

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    It should read Dauphin. Not Dolphin.

    Cool helmut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwmkravchenko View Post
    It should read Dauphin. Not Dolphin.

    Cool helmut.
    I'm in accordance wit mwm, dolphin is a marine mammal, Dauphin is a nobility title as translated by Reverso : Title designating the presumptive heir to the crown France, who is generally the eldest son of the king.
    The successor planned by a head of state, an important figure. He is considered the dolphin of the party leader.

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    Quoting the Musée de l'Armée's description (first row, third from left) of the armor:

    The Armour of the Dauphin was made for Henry of Orléans, who was King of France under the name Henry II from 1547 to 1559. In fact, it is decorated with dolphins ("dauphins" in French) facing each other (visual 3). This armour is 1.79 m tall and weighs 19.7 kg. The weight tells us that it was intended for military use. The material used is blackened iron which has been damascened (inlaid with silver). Until 1797, this masterpiece was kept in the royal collections in the Garde-Meuble de la Couronne.
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    Looks like a target.

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    First, thanks for the pic of a magnificent work of art. I am NOT into picking nits, but since "Dauphin" is French for Dolphin, there are actually several different ways to speak of the Future King. I am not expert enough in history or language to say which way might be correct. My suggestion is to enjoy the artistry shown here, and not worry too much about all the little details. ps: Again, in a strictly friendly and helpful way, I will point out that a "helmet" is a protective head covering device, and "helmut" is (I think) the spelling of the word that is a European Man's first name. Whatever, guys, please don't take offense. We are all here because we respect such amazing artistry as this piece. And, we respect each other and only offer Constructive Criticism. That's what friends do for friends. Thanks. Mike

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    Gee, and here I thought that it was a covid19 tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old kodger View Post
    Gee, and here I thought that it was a covid19 tool.
    The covid tools are increasingly rare but easily recognizable; often seen alone or driving solitaire. The persistence of one very well known retired persons association running public service propaganda is another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toolmaker51 View Post
    The covid tools are increasingly rare but easily recognizable; often seen alone or driving solitaire. The persistence of one very well known retired persons association running public service propaganda is another.
    We occasionally see one around here but often at half-mast.

    But not to monkey around, I see an anti-monkey patent was granted around a year or so ago. Also, seems the authorities can't tell the difference between shingles and simians and use the same picture for both.



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    Sorry Mike, it's not a detail, it's like you use the name "Jean" in french for an "jean", one is the title for a person, the other is a cloth, nothing as a criticism, just calling things by their right name, if you make a search with "dolphin" you never can found who is the "Dauphin" with a capital at the first letter in France and other royalties, there are two totally different things.
    Nothing to do too like with the spectacular work of steel "damasquinage" in french(for this helmet) which has nothing to do with the word "damas", the two are made for qualifying steel and are steel but are totally different in technique and result. ;-)

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