Quote Originally Posted by Frank S View Post
you plunge into the drywall somewhere in the interior of the electrical box cut to the side pull up just a little then plunge in again this time using the outside of the box as a template
Whaaaaat? Had to look; they are called "Guide Points". A drill point with unfluted section rides either perimeter of an electrical box. The cutter depth is set for thickness of drywall. It's all new to me!