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    Fixing Manual Mill Spindle - No Contact Between The Taper of Tool and Spindle



    Hello. Recently I've had problems with a cheap manual mill I bought for my workshop. I wasn't able to fit MT4 tools - these didn't want go deep enough so the taper fits properly. Check out how I solved the problem. What do you think of this solution? Maybe it will give someone an idea how to deal with such issue.

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    I did something similar to covert an R8 mill spindle to an ISO 30 taper. I rotated the head to half the included angle and bored the spindle using the vertical table/knee feed. It would not work using the quill feed, that would just bore a parallel hole regardless of the angle.
    It is important that the tool edge is set on the centreline, the equivalent of setting tool height on a lathe.

    This method ensures good concentricity, better than removing the spindle and cutting the taper in a lathe where there will always be some runout.

    The same technique can also be used to repair a damaged R8 taper.

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    Thanks GBWM! We've added your Mill Spindle Modification to our Milling category,
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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyfoale View Post
    I did something similar to covert an R8 mill spindle to an ISO 30 taper. I rotated the head to half the included angle and bored the spindle using the vertical table/knee feed. It would not work using the quill feed, that would just bore a parallel hole regardless of the angle.
    It is important that the tool edge is set on the centreline, the equivalent of setting tool height on a lathe.

    This method ensures good concentricity, better than removing the spindle and cutting the taper in a lathe where there will always be some runout.

    The same technique can also be used to repair a damaged R8 taper.
    That had to be an interesting operation. Do you have any video of the process?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GBWM View Post
    That had to be an interesting operation. Do you have any video of the process?
    No video nor photos and I do not even have that mill now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyfoale View Post
    No video nor photos and I do not even have that mill now.
    That's unlucky. But thanks for sharing the idea!

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    Use WD40 or kerosene when cutting aluminum

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrickieDickie View Post
    Use WD40 or kerosene when cutting aluminum
    Sometimes I use WD40. Is kerosense any better than WD40 or the effect is similar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GBWM View Post
    Sometimes I use WD40. Is kerosense any better than WD40 or the effect is similar?
    TapMagic is great on Aluminium. WD40 also have a dedicated fluid for machining in addition to their traditional (W)ater (D)ispersant 40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GBWM View Post
    Sometimes I use WD40. Is kerosense any better than WD40 or the effect is similar?
    Would stay away from WD40 for anything with enough cutting-force to create smoke...

    When I started out I used it and fairly frequently I would get these crazy heart-palpitations with my heart beating at a mile-a-minute and so hard I could properly feel it when I put my hand on my chest, stopped using WD40 and it went completely away...............

    So it would appear that once you heat WD40 past it's smoke-point some kind of CNS active compound is created............



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