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    (almost) Did this today, putting an old Monkey-Wards table saw together. For unknown crazy reason, there are 3 bolt/ washer/ nut sets in each corner, where frame corners, saw cover box, and Unistrut like base meet.
    Tried magnet, too thick for allowable space.
    Used masking tape instead.

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    Toolmaker, Thanks for the Monkey Wards mention! A real blast from the past. My old man used to call it that...we had a store 1/2 mi away from our family lumber yard in Pleasant Hill, CA...I haven't thought of that in YEARS! Cheers
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    Hats off to our collective 'old man'.

    It's pointless trying to forget certain things individuals count as history. Nearly all those giant retail corporations vaporized, or so reduced to appear so. Cashways/ Payless, 84 Lumber, K-Mart, Thompson - Sutherland, J.C. Penney, Sears Roebuck, National Lumber (became Home Depot), Buena Park Lumber (is Ganahl) Eagle Home Improvement (now Lowe's)...lots of industrial suppliers too. Last three years, I've done a lot of driving, none of those are visible.
    All had appreciable service, loyal customers, good distribution, identifiable brands, owners, CEO's.
    Now, so few replacements equal those, aren't supporting US manufacture very well, and think online support equals that retired tradesman in hardware, electrical or plumbing.
    Nope!
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    Well said, mate...The demise of large corporate brands as Sears, JC Penney, K Mart (our's is going gangbusters!) et al, is against every basic tenent of good business practice. The sad irony is that the 'modern' customer has no idea of what constitutes a 'good' business from a customer's perspective. We, my mum and I, recognised the shift early in the piece, forced by our Southern Pacific Railroad landlord after cessation of service on the Contra Costa spur line, to determine whether to relocate the Pearson Lumber Co to a new home. Home Depot was just setting up shop nearby. A tour of Home Base in San Leandro (I think) in 1984 help us understand the future of the industry...She, in '85 was looking forward to retirement. We did the sums and the cost and years of new hard work to re-establish the business in a new location with a whole new customer base, was not something I would have wished on her, as I could not have done it alone (financially). We closed a 40 year old successful business and liquidated, much to the chagrin of longterm employees and gobsmacked customers. I emigrated to Australia 2 years after and found success in the 'timber' business with several ventures. Retired now, with a cabinetmaker hobby business, I support a local family owned timber yard (105 years old) nearly exclusively for all timber needs, but sadly, use Bunnings (think Home Depot) for hardware and fixings. And as for local manufacture, our builders used to whinge about 'cheap Jap steel' in easily bent nails, while happy as Larry to buy PSS (Pacific States Steel) nails because the company was in San Leandro, CA...but they were fully imported from Japan...go figure. I still try to support local/small if at all possible. Thanks for your continued input here. Cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beserkleyboy View Post
    'cheap Jap steel' in easily bent nails, while happy as Larry to buy PSS (Pacific States Steel) nails because the company was in San Leandro, CA...but they were fully imported from Japan...
    A label can be very deceiving, or informative with equal goals. That so many products are counterfeit is one proof, but careful eye can find little hiccups in the wording or other irregularities. That's different than products under a recognized brand, yet imported from elsewhere. We've all seen negative responses to certain imports; yes, some are undeserved, the rotten ones spoil the whole barrel. Of course the power of suggestion' "Oh, THESE are from the US!".
    I'm perfectly OK with output of Japan; that was not always so. To me, no economy exists without a high percentage of it based in quality manufacturing (with attendant subcontractors); they realized what poor output would do to them, turning it around in spectacular manner.
    A point of wonder; with the collective talent of HMT.net, if we made something, how it would fare? Obviously, it's purely speculative,logistics make it nigh impossible. I wish more people would indicate their locations, even roughly. Can't imagine why they don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toolmaker51 View Post
    (almost) Did this today, putting an old Monkey-Wards table saw together. For unknown crazy reason, there are 3 bolt/ washer/ nut sets in each corner, where frame corners, saw cover box, and Unistrut like base meet.
    Tried magnet, too thick for allowable space.
    Used masking tape instead.
    You're just now getting around to assembling it. You're at least as bad as me.
    Stupid is forever, ignorance can be fixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floradawg View Post
    You're just now getting around to assembling it. You're at least as bad as me.
    I'd say ouch, but not the case.
    It was assembled while I test ran it a couple days before. I broke it down, was unmanageable loading into car (and believed it be worse removing). That allowed blowing out saw dust, running motor separately, and general attention to various fasteners. Only thing found out of sorts, the blade of last user is a 6" from a portable circular saw. Lowest height of arbor from table indicates 8-1/2" is correct.
    I'm no carpenter; initial use will enclose open area of trusses and plate/ eaves of my roof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toolmaker51 View Post
    I'd say ouch, but not the case.
    It was assembled while I test ran it a couple days before. I broke it down, was unmanageable loading into car (and believed it be worse removing). That allowed blowing out saw dust, running motor separately, and general attention to various fasteners. Only thing found out of sorts, the blade of last user is a 6" from a portable circular saw. Lowest height of arbor from table indicates 8-1/2" is correct.
    I'm no carpenter; initial use will enclose open area of trusses and plate/ eaves of my roof.
    Just funnin' with ya.
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    Toolmaker,
    When you get it set up properly, bolt it down with easy disconnect system, I'd imagine female Dynabolts or such, to allow flush mounting. Locking castors won't stop movement or damp vibration. There are expensive castor/platform attachments, but they have the same problems.
    My 12" Wadkin clone (~300kg) does not require solid fixing, but all of the 'contractor' or compact saws need added mass to work well. And invest in a GOOD blade, or 3, Rip, all purpose, and fine cut- off. And make up a baffle system or box the base in (plywood) completely, airtight as possible (foam weatherstrip), and connect to, at least, a shop-vac. Irwin's range of blades are a good, readily available and quite suitable for a saw of that size. Hope that helps. Any questions, feel free to contact.
    Jim

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