The house next door...or how to NOT build a house

**Toolmaker51** · Nov 18, 2019, 08:18 PM

Oh, it was stellar alright. . .Your tiny little pilot saw them.
Probably still is.
It's important, socially speaking, to not quip about headless operation.

**jdurand** · Nov 20, 2019, 01:10 AM

We did just have an issue with our house (had to be something), my wife and I did the design and from day one we've had straight stairs with a flat landing then straight to the second floor. When they've given sketches of changes to our plans we've always been careful to cross out anything that looked like Winder stairs and write in FLAT LANDING. Well, now that they've put the lower walls in they said there's no room for a flat landing, especially as they won't make stairs as steep as I had drawn (7" rise, 11" run). Sounds like a Winder conspiracy to me. The engineer will only approve low slope stairs (5.9" rise, 11.81" run) with a winder for us elderly people (who's elderly? We can both hike miles). Well, we agreed to the Winder ONLY if it's the safe type with no sharp end. 6" minimum run on the narrow end with 10" minimum a foot in from the narrow end. Also want them to increase the rise at least a bit.

I just hope I don't trip over those "safe" stairs, with the nose on the tread they're going to be 12-1/2" deep...that's a lot of step to take two at a time when I run up stairs.

**jdurand** · Nov 20, 2019, 09:59 AM

I like when they asked if we had any idea what climbing steep stairs like I was suggesting was like. Um, yes, been climbing 7-11 my whole life.

Interesting they think 7" rise stairs are steep and yet anything less than a 10 foot ceiling is too short. Makes for some LONG staircases.

**Frank S** · Nov 21, 2019, 08:48 PM

In your estimation do you consider the house being built as eventually raising or lowering the value of the house you are currently living in?
If you think it will go down it might be time to try and make a quick sale