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    Quote Originally Posted by WmRMeyers View Post
    Ultraviolet light is used to kill germs. Will that short an exposure do it? Couldn't tell you. If it's free, it might be worth trying.

    Frank: you'd be surprised where folks use their phones these days. Or maybe not! I am one of those folks who reads in the bathroom. And my phone and tablet both have 500GB memory cards in them with as much of my library on them as I can fit. Hoping soon to get new phone and tablet that take 1TB cards, so I can get more on them. That gives me over 13,000 books of fiction, and quite a bit more than that of metalworking, electronics, computer, and other technical books. That said, one or both accompany me about everywhere. If I need to kill time, standing in a line or at the toilet, one or both are with me. My toilet is equipped with a bidet, so I don't normally have to get my hands dirty, and I still wash them after using the facilities, just because it's a habit too long practiced to give up.

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    For me a phone is almost the most useless tool I own with the exception of the built-in flashlight and camera, and it is a poor excuse for a flashlight, I probably haven't used it to access the internet half a dozen times in all the years I have owned one, unless i get a lot of spam calls or take a lot of pictures I put it on charge once a week whether it needs it or not. However it is a pretty good stress reliever when it rings while I am doing something I haul it out of the holster and toss it as far as I can throw it. Since it is a Sonim x8800 mil and Miners spec it is tough enough to bounce off a concrete wall as long as I don't try to emulate Nolan Ryan with the dang thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank S View Post
    For me a phone is almost the most useless tool I own with the exception of the built-in flashlight and camera, and it is a poor excuse for a flashlight, I probably haven't used it to access the internet half a dozen times in all the years I have owned one, unless i get a lot of spam calls or take a lot of pictures I put it on charge once a week whether it needs it or not. However it is a pretty good stress reliever when it rings while I am doing something I haul it out of the holster and toss it as far as I can throw it. Since it is a Sonim x8800 mil and Miners spec it is tough enough to bounce off a concrete wall as long as I don't try to emulate Nolan Ryan with the dang thing
    Got to admit that I refer to it as my electronic leash. But I do find some uses for it. I'm mathematically challenged, so the various calculators come in handy. I've got a scientific, feeds and speeds, and ohm's law calculators, for example. That and everything else it does is quite a bit smaller than my TI-86. I can be anywhere, and access any of the books on it, though the screen is easier to read on the tablet. Camera in the phone is great for before and after shots of stuff to be repaired/completed repairs. Tablet camera is not as good, but it's ok. The so-called flash is about useless, but I don't have to carry a separate camera. Wish I'd had something like this when I was in the USAF. I spent ten years as a photographer for them. Would have been a great deal easier to carry than the 4x5 Graphex XL I sometimes needed, and still better even for the Nikon F kit. I'm using a cheap Motorola MOTO G7 Supra. I'm hard on phones, so it doesn't pay to buy the more expensive ones. Though a ruggedized phone would be nice. Ruggedized cases are fairly cheap, though I'm not sure they'd survive throwing across the shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WmRMeyers View Post
    Got to admit that I refer to it as my electronic leash. But I do find some uses for it. I'm mathematically challenged, so the various calculators come in handy. I've got a scientific, feeds and speeds, and ohm's law calculators, for example. That and everything else it does is quite a bit smaller than my TI-86. I can be anywhere, and access any of the books on it, though the screen is easier to read on the tablet. Camera in the phone is great for before and after shots of stuff to be repaired/completed repairs. Tablet camera is not as good, but it's ok. The so-called flash is about useless, but I don't have to carry a separate camera. Wish I'd had something like this when I was in the USAF. I spent ten years as a photographer for them. Would have been a great deal easier to carry than the 4x5 Graphex XL I sometimes needed, and still better even for the Nikon F kit. I'm using a cheap Motorola MOTO G7 Supra. I'm hard on phones, so it doesn't pay to buy the more expensive ones. Though a ruggedized phone would be nice. Ruggedized cases are fairly cheap, though I'm not sure they'd survive throwing across the shop.

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    my phone is nearly 3/4" thick but it doesn't have any extra protective cases to fit over it that I am aware of my old galaxy S4Active had a tiple layered case made of rubber I even had a 2layered hardened glass screen on it everyone called it my Godzilla phone I managed to keep it alive for about 5 years by keeping a couple spare digitizers on hand it got to where I could change a screen out on it in less than 5 minutes but it finally developed internal issues so I folded it and bought a windows 10 phone good phone but too delicate for my liking even though it had features I found handy when the networks killed off the 3g that phone died and I had to find a replacement the X8800 seemed to fit the bill. It's on an Android OS not much different than the old Galaxy but even with the quirks of Android at least it's not Apple sauce. I refuse to knowingly own anything even remotely associated with Apple
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank S View Post
    my phone is nearly 3/4" thick but it doesn't have any extra protective cases to fit over it that I am aware of my old galaxy S4Active had a tiple layered case made of rubber I even had a 2layered hardened glass screen on it everyone called it my Godzilla phone I managed to keep it alive for about 5 years by keeping a couple spare digitizers on hand it got to where I could change a screen out on it in less than 5 minutes but it finally developed internal issues so I folded it and bought a windows 10 phone good phone but too delicate for my liking even though it had features I found handy when the networks killed off the 3g that phone died and I had to find a replacement the X8800 seemed to fit the bill. It's on an Android OS not much different than the old Galaxy but even with the quirks of Android at least it's not Apple sauce. I refuse to knowingly own anything even remotely associated with Apple
    Re: Apple products, you and me both, Brother! I've been fairly fond of Android machines for a lot of years now, and though they're not now and never have or will be perfect, I still prefer them to Windows products. Though I'm typing this on something like my 90th Windows computer. I have an old Celeron laptop with Windows, and two with Linux, and a couple of Netbooks, one of which just has a blank driver right now...

    What I want is a modern version of CP/M-86, built to take advantage of all the features of the modern processors. I'm not smart enough to write it myself, so I'm just doomed to get along on other folks products. I've spent about 30 years becoming a MS guru, and another 10 giving up on it. Wish I'd gone to linux the first time I heard of it.

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    What I want is a modern version of CP/M-86, built to take advantage of all the features of the modern processors. I'm not smart enough to write it myself, so I'm just doomed to get along on other folks products. I've spent about 30 years becoming a MS guru, and another 10 giving up on it. Wish I'd gone to linux the first time I heard of it.

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    Long before my interest in computers, actually never have had much interest in computers. I bought my first computer somewhere either in 99 or 2000 a Gateway 600 with a whopping 10gb hard drive it had windoz 98 installed A friend of mine installed Solidworks 98 in it, which was about the only thing I used the computer for was learning to make parts and assemblies of the machines I had been designing by hand on a drafting board. Tt wasn't a very short time later he talked me into installing win 2000. so he could upgrade solidworks to 2000. The gateway came with a free year of AOL and that was my first exposure to the internet I can still hear that horrible dialup connection screeching today. in 02 I decided that I wanted a machine at home to be able to work on my cad drawings so I went to a computer accessory store and filled a basket full of random parts listening to the salesman at the store I bought a bare tower with power supply the mother board a processor 30 gb hard drive 4 memory sticks turned out the board only had 2 slots so had to buy a pair of double stick holders the 3 1/2 floppy drive a CD rom modem video card keyboard and the rest of the junk like cabling and such went home and proceeded to assemble what I hoped to be a more powerful machine than I had at my shop Installed the OS and Solidworks and WOOHOO this thing was smoking literally that is. Pulled the plug removed the power supply took it back to the store the guy said it fried because it was underpowered, he replaced it with a better more powerful one. Kept that computer for a number of years. We got to Kuwait in 03 I gave my wife the gateway used the Frankinputer in my home office while I assembled a pair of more powerful boxes to replace it. About every 18 months there after I'd get a wild hair and upgrade until eventually I had a pair of machines each having 3 500 gb hard drives 32 gb memory 3 32" monitors for each, yada-yada. During this time I had discovered the uselessness of way too many laptops until I figured out that a gaming computer was as close to being a workstation as I could get in 2012 we pretty much knew we would hopefully be leaving Kuwait with in a year I bought the wife a middle range HP laptop and I found a MSI gamer's addition that someone had special ordered but never picked up 8 processors 2.00 ghz 64 bit, I7 win 7 500gb drive 16 gb memory pretty much the top of the line available at the time at least over there. By today's standards it is not much more by comparison than the gateway 600 to a machine that can be bought but I don't have 10 grand to replace it with something that would be considered as high end as this one was back in the day. I have babied it not for 10 years but I have also gutted it a couple of times as well there is only so much you can do inside of a laptop though
    I'm running win 10 now only because they stopped supporting win7.
    Most will argue with me but in my opinion wondozzz stopped getting better with win2000 they are only more and more bloated I got used to Xpuke well enough and never really had any real issues with win7 never ran win8 but none of them seem to be any major improvement over win2000 excepting for possibly the security holes which were easy enough to plug with 3rd party programs as long as you kept an eye on things.



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